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| | | (...) I don't understand this. You said that you liked the minifig Stormtrooper, which is basically a new mold and some new printed parts (I suppose). And you would also like a the larger Technic Stormtrooper to have new molds to make it look more (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | (...) No I am just suggesting a helmet. They did the head for R2-D2 in the Droid Developers kit... I am not suggesting a bunch of new parts, just one or two so the head looks right. As for would it still be LEGO? of course it would because LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) But the head of the R2-D2 is basically a quarter sphere, isn't it? Even with some printing on it, it is more generally useful than a Stormtrooper helmet would be. (...) I think it is a daring move from TLC to launch a set like this, which (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | (...) Granted, but... (...) I'm not so sure that this is altogether Lego's philosophy now-adays; judging by all the POOPS (even in the SW sets to an unsettling degree), Lego's doesn't seem to have a lot of confidence in using the creative building (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Bryan Hodges
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| | | | | | (...) Lego could've made some smaller quarter spheres, in two different sizes with printing for the eyes and mouth, and laid those over the front of the Stormtrooper head... that would have given it a more "realistic look" while keeping the parts (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) I can't speak for Eric and I'm sure he'll answer anyway, but my $.02 is that I agree that probably no one could have done any better with current parts. But I also feel that just because that's true (assuming it is) doesn't mean that the set (...) (24 years ago, 26-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | (...) I hear your comments on this, but honestly I don't understand your view. How is the Stormtrooper so much worse than the other Star Wars models? I mean, they are all just approximations of the real things, and even the UCS sets have flaws, or (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | (...) Well let me try and explain my point of view better with some examples. I look at set 7191 you don't have to tell me that its an X-Wing. The same goes for basically all the System Star Wars sets and even all the Technic Star Wars sets except (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) Ah, so you're saying that the Pit Droid looks like a Pit Droid because virtually no other "gizmo" has the same looks? But the Stormtrooper, on the other hand, is basically a humanoid shape with a specific set of armour plates. Hence, as this (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | (...) No thats not it. I agree with you that it is a harder form to accurately depict without creating new parts but if they could accurately depict a Stormtrooper or other character then I would be all for it. LEGO should not have avoided the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | | (...) This is probably a major point where we disagree. While I'm no fan of Star Wars, I have seen the movies (and I have seen "Troops" :-) and as I have said before, I think the head of the LEGO Stormtrooper actually looks like a Stormtrooper. The (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ahh, yes! That's how I feel too. My additional fear is that I wonder if they're planning some Saturday morning cartoon commercial where they show the Stormtrooper blasting poor Threepio to bits. Violence aside, there are two problems with (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Ray Kremer
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| | | | | | | | | (...) No he's not. Ep1 C-3PO was bare circuits. And even though the beams and stuff on the set are black, you can clearly see the gold paneling. (24 years ago, 28-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, it is an Ep4-6 model. He has modeled as he having the cowlings, even with a silver cowling instead of golden on one of his legs. I thought that Todd was a "detail" man..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 30-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) All right, I stand corrected. I looked at the rickety hollow body and didn't look at the legs. --Todd (24 years ago, 30-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) But this points out why the 2000 Technic droid sets 'worked': the EP1 droids were all skeletal and exposed mechanisms. Very TECHNIC-ish. The TECHNIC models were not accurate, strictly speaking. The bits were in the wrong places, the way they (...) (24 years ago, 31-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) That sounds like a good plan to me, (...) To me, LEGO is about the imagination to create new things (or to find ways to represent things), not about the imagination to see pictures in the clouds. (...) Not really. I know an entire household (6 (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | (...) It is pretty obvious to me that most real life shapes cannot be accurately modeled in LEGO bricks. To be able to enjoy LEGO building, one must have the imagination to recognize complex but common shapes (e.g. vehicles or characters) in the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) <snip> (...) I am not sure exactly how Eric J. meant what he said to be taken but I read it as such... "not about the imagination to see something that isn't there" I think to at least a few of us we don't see a Stormtrooper. I know you see a (...) (24 years ago, 28-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Bryan Hodges
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| | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.starwars, Eric Kingsley writes: <snip> (...) look at it the more it looks like a Stormtrooper. I think we should reserve judgement on these new sets until we can hold them in our hands and play with them... All we've got is a 2D (...) (24 years ago, 30-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) This is one of the greatest things about the variety of elements LEGO produces, IMHO -- there aren't (obviously) an infinite variety of LEGO shapes, but they've thought things through carefully enough to make a very decent variety that can (...) (24 years ago, 28-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —James Simpson
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| | | | | | In lugnet.starwars, Fredrik Glöckner writes: Sorry to interrupt here; Just a couple of observations/questions... (...) Reliable accuracy is indeed needed for both. Lego did very well with the Pit Droid, and I have all confidence that Lego could do (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | (...) I can't answer for Todd, but I'll try and explain why I feel the Stormtrooper is not a good set. (...) It's not the building technique I have a problem with. I think that the Pit Droid, the Droideka, the Battle Droid, and even C-3PO *look* (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) The other SW models look like SW ships and things. The Stormtrooper doesn't look like something from the SW universe. If you're told, "Hey, this is a Stormtrooper," you could say, "Ah, yes, OK, that looks like a Stormtrooper," but it doesn't (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | | Re: What is with the Technic Stormtrooper? —Eric Joslin
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| | | | (...) I think, given the information from the Keiran (sp?) the Lego Direct Producer, the inclusion of the rubber projectile makes sense... when you have both sets, you can make the Stormtrooper shoot C-3PO and fly apart. Of course, this moves LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 27-Oct-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
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