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| | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Bryan Wong
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| | | | | (...) Ahh, I was wondering the same thing. Good thing David asked, and Eric answered. Hmm, I forget what storm troopers look like; care to refresh my memory? Bryan (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Nick Goetz
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| | | | | | (URL) Wong wrote in message ... (...) are (...) of (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —David C. Pyatt
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| | | | | Guess I better make some time and dig out the Triology... :) Dave (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —James Simpson
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| | | | (...) True, but by Jedi any kind of Stormtrooper unit was made wimpy by Lucas. Stormtroopers were meant to be the elite shock troops of the Empire. They were absolutely loyal to the Emperor, and even kept order even within the ranks of the Imperial (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | (...) Of course, by Jedi, we had the Emperor's guard. Not that we ever saw those red-cloaked guys *do* anything (besides stand there and look cool...) but still...I think that must have been where all of the competent Stormtroopers went. Anyway, the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | (...) Heh, it's in ANH, when the 'troopers run into the Death Star control room. He whacks his head on the door. Far right side of the screen. Easier to see if you've got widescreen. (...) Yeah. I really hate the Disney-fied scene with Greedo firing (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Kya Morden
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| | | | | | | | (...) Okay, I see everyone complain about this Greedo scene, where is it? Is that the green guy in the bar in ANH with Han Solo? I have this strange feeling I'm going to have to rewatch the two versions. Kya (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | Kya, (...) That's it. I watched it a few weeks ago, and then popped in the original version. As Ross Perot says, "Just Stupid, Larry." Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —John Green
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| | | | | | | | Some of these scenes were filmed but the sequence was never completed. In the original ESB trailer you can see a bit where C-3PO rips a sign off a door. This sign says "DANGER" (not in english, of course) and you can still see that door in the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Alex Roode
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| | | | | | | (...) were (...) And you forgot when the stormtroopers are chasing Luke and someone in ANH, they say: "Close the blast doors, close the blast doors." then Luke and the other person run through the blast doors. "Open the blast doors, open the blast (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Ben Gatrelle
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| | | | | | | | (...) doors" was added for The Special Edition. It was not in the original if I remember correctly. Ben Gatrelle (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | | | | (...) Actually, I think they're saying "Close the blast doors" in the regular version and the SE added "Open the blast doors" but it's been a few days since I saw it last so I could be wrong. 8) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Both lines are in the original movie. Steve (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —John Green
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| | | | | | | | Actually, the line "Close the blast doors!" was in the original movie, but didn't make it into the video releases (it might be in the VERY first video release, I'll have to dig out that old CBS/Fox release and check.) -John (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | Really? Hmm, I'll have to recheck my LaserDisk. Steve (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Matthew Wilkins
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| | | | | | | | | It is in the CBS/Fox version. As well as the following line "Open the blast doors!" *grin* -Cheese (...) ANH, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Matthew Wilkins
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| | | | | | | | It is in the CBS/Fox version. As well as the following line "Open the blast doors!" *grin* -Cheese (...) ANH, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | (...) Regarding the Emperor's guards, there was a scene in Jedi that was cut in which some Imperial official demanded to see the Emperor, and the guards turned him away by using their sticks on him (by way of a shock, I believe). I've actually seen (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.starwars, James Simpson writes: <snip> (...) </snip> Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was that snively Moff Jerjerrod (the guy who greeted Vader on the Death Star) I saw that thing too. I thought it was on theforce.net, but I couldn't find it when (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —John Green
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| | | | | | | | There was also a scene in Jedi when Vader goes to see the emperor (after he told Vader to stay on the command ship) and gets stopped by the Royal Guard, but Vader waves his hand and uses the Force on them (just like Luke did to the Gammorean Guards (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Jeff Thompson
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| | | | | | | (...) That's in ANH. In general the Empire is portrayed as buffoonish, but it did get worse from film to film. For example, when the Star Destroyers try to cut off the Millinnium Falcon from blasting off on Tatooine, they don't actually screw up so (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Kya Morden
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Uuuuuh, not the Star Wars expert here...but I swear I've never seen that before. Kya (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Me neither...but it sounds cool! (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | I only know this because a good friend of mine is a real SW fanatic and has tried to amass all SW media related material, i.e. every version on VHS, laserdisc, books on tape, that sort of thing. Anyway, we were watching the collector's boxed set of (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Early ESB trailer —Matthew Wilkins
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| | | | | | | | | | <puts on Star Wars Freak hat> Okay, this was a scene that was originally slated to be in the original theatre release of ESB; Lucas and Co weren't happy with the way the Wampa looked (alternately like a man in a furry suit or a jumpy, stop-action (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Early ESB trailer —Scott P. Costello
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) movie (...) Anthony Daniels (man inside C-3PO) spoke of this scene in the Star Wars Insider magazine. According to him there was a large subplot written in which rebels caught wampas to protect themselves, and while the base was being overrun (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Early ESB trailer —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) <pull> <tug> Mine won't come off. ~Mark (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Early ESB trailer —Garett Yoshimura
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| | | | | | | | | | I know this is an old post, but being the star wars nut that I am I just had to correct one little thing! (...) The wampa in the special edition is not cgi, it is actually a man in a wampa suit. This wampa suit is of course, much better than the one (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Jason Catena
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| | | | | | | | | (...) "See Emily Play," a very early (1960s) Pink Floyd song, written by Syd Barrett. I believe it's reproduced on _Relics_ or _A Collection of Great Dance Songs_. I've been humming along with that tune every time I see one of his posts... thanks (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Jeff Thompson
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| | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —James Wilson
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| | | | | | Okay, this is a bit off-topic, but the subject seems to have degenerated into "inconsistencies in the Star Wars movies, and Imperial buffoonery" so here goes: at the end of Episode 4, when the Empire is closing in for the kill on the Rebellion, with (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) got (...) I'd guess three reasons-- A. Yavin is really big.... it's possible that the Death Star wasn't capable of destroying it... B. The faster they get to the moon with the rebel base, the better... by using the planet's gravity to propel (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Andrew Summersgill
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| | | | | | | | | Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | Andrew & All, (...) Speaking of the Empire, my biggest complaint with the SW universe, where I am talking about movies, and not the books, etc. I am not familiar with them, is that the Empire is really ignorant / dumb/ etc. There are so many (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Lance Scott
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| | | | | | | | | In lugnet.starwars, Scott Edward Sanburn writes: SNIP (...) That is because they are the Villains of the story. Villainy never wins in the end because of many factors, the most important one being "Evil never Prospers". This was an unwritten code in (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Fraser Lovatt
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| | | | | | | | | | <snip> Loads of stuff about the Empire. </snip> And has anyone else noticed that just about every single member of the Empire is played by a British actor and the rebels are nearly all American? George -- what are you trying to say? F (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) EVIL British. ;) I think it was just to have a difference between the Empire and the Rebels. Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Fraser Lovatt
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) True -- but then it is odd that the rebels would have a different accent. Surely everyone is a member of the Empire until they rebel -- so they should be pretty much the same. Is there anything in the "literature" that hints that the rebels (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Gene C. Weissinger
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Then explain the princess's pseudo british accent at the beginning of episode 4 - which turns into non-existent by the end of the movie... ??? EC (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Fraser Lovatt
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I don't think ANYBODY could explain that accent. Dick van Dyke could do a better English accent than that. F (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) I think that Americans tend to associate the British accent with formality and sophistication; sort of the regal by-the-book British officer character. This stereotype (or so I suppose it could be called) fits well with the characteristics of (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Jeff Thompson
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) adds (...) EP (...) Princess Leia speaks with a faux-british accent in parts of ST:ANH, so the "british accent as signifier of evil" theory doesn't quite pan out across the board. Not to mention that James Earl Jones doesn't have much of a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) It's just the military officers. The stormtroopers have a normal accent. So it's that formality thing. Which sort of explains Sir Alec Guinness. Formal, you know. Steve (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —John J. Ladasky, Jr.
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) And in doing so, Lucas betrays how much he was influenced by Hollywood, while all the while claiming to dislike the place. Using Brits for the (generally evil) overlords and Americans for the (generally good) oppressed underclass is a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —George Haberberger
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I thought most of the episodes were shot in England, thus if you need a few more speaking characters (not the major actors), you call the London talent agency. I don't recall a lot of non-stars on the rebel side, who was there, Wedge, one or (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Wedge, Biggs, Porkins, Gold Leader, all the other guys who got wiped out in the assault on the Death Star...in the later films Mon Mothma and Admiral Ackbar...the guy who was in charge of the Hoth base, Dack (Luke's snowspeeder copilot)... (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Heh, funny thing about this... I recently had the opportunity to have a beer with Jeremy Bulloch (Boba Fett) after a fan convention. He was really amazed at the quasi-celebrity he now enjoys at fan shows simply because he wore some plastic (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) That's pretty cool! But it just goes to show you: you never know what just might prove to be your perpetual meal ticket. Maybe some people assume that being inside the suit meant that he somehow "knew" Fett? I'm not sure it's that different (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, when you consider that Sidious acheived all his goals in Episode I, without anyone even *realising* it, I'd say chances are good that he'll continue to kick... err, rear. eric (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think that one reason that this happens is because it is just plain easier to make the bad guys dufuses (I have no idea how to spell that - maybe dufusi?). It takes more talent, more creativity, more effort, more patience, to make the bad (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | | | (...) I suspect that since the plural of virus is virii, then the plural of dufus must be dufii, right? :) Adrian -- (URL) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Empire Analysis : WAS: [Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships] —Matthew Wilkins
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| | | | | | | | (...) I would argue that making the plural of 'doofus' something that a doofus would never think of is sort of doofus-like. *grin* <hayseed> Back home in 'Lasker the plural of "doofus" was "politicians". </hayseed> -Cheese (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | | | Re: Why I think we'll get Stormtroopers + Imperial ships —James Simpson
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| | | | (...) To where I jump in to mention that I came to basically the same conclusion while reading the Talkbacks on AICN for a new disney movie. I had come to the sudden realization that Jar Jar was nothing more than a Highly Irritating Disney Sidekick (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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