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| | | (...) When DM attacked QGJ on Tatooine, QCJ exhibited a believable sense of urgency as well as a fear for Anakin's life. And after DM impales QCJ in the final battle, OWK is extremely upset; he bounces in place, extremely agitated, waiting for the (...) (26 years ago, 23-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes spoilers) —Charles Spindell
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| | | | | My main peeve about Episode I was the way they left behind Anakin's mother. With the support of the Jedi Council and the fortunes of the planet, Naboo, I am sure someone could have bartered for the freedom of Shmi Skywalker at the end of the movie. (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Roger Connor
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| | | | | | The Shmi situation is supposed to come into play in the next movie and is supposed to help Annakin along towards the dark side. I think the idea is that no legitimate part of the republic would have dealings with the Hutt "mafia" and that makes (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Eric Lind
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| | | | | | | Spoilerage One doesn't really know from the end of TPM how much time has elapsed between the end of the battle and the celebration. Obviously, Obi wan gets accepted and Anakin gets apprenticed, so there is some elapsed time here, but it's a bit (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) [SPOILERS/SPECULATION] : : : : : : I had to wonder how badly Shmi even really wanted to be freed. For some reason, she told Anakin not to look back, and he literally pushed him on his way when they finally parted. And the fact that she wears a (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Charles Spindell
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| | | | | | | [SPOILERS/SPECULATION] I heard that Episode II will deal primarily with the Clone Wars and the love affair between Anakin and Amidala. With the extinction of the Sith over a millennium ago, I feel that Palpatine has somehow reconstructed the DNA (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Lee Jorgensen
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| | | | | | | | | <SPOILERAGE> (hopefully this is enough) At the end of TPM, Yoda and Mace were discussing the Sith, and I believe that Yoda said "There are always two, a master and an apprentice." So what about the end of RotJ, where both Vader and the Emporer (I (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Ryan Dennett
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Palpatine(Senator Palpatine) as in the one in TPM Ryan "Build or build not. There is no try." - Lego Master Yoda (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) I don't think they meant that there were always supposed to be exactly two Sith...I think they meant that whenever there was one, there was another -- meaning Sith in pairs rather than alone. --Todd p.s. It's said that Palpatine didn't (...) (26 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Lee Jorgensen
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Unfortuantely, Lucas isn't going to do 7-9 ... :( Nor, will he allow anyone else to do it either. -- Lee Jorgensen, Programmer/Analyst - Bankoe Systems, Inc. mailto:jorgensen@bankoe.moc <-- reverse moc mailto:ljorgensen@uswest.ten <-- reverse (...) (26 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) That's what he says now. --Todd (26 years ago, 27-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Alan Shutko
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Fortunately, junk like that isn't canon. (IMAO, of course.) (26 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Jonathan Little
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) The way it's explained in the novelization of ep 1 (and may be common knowledge to the real SW fans) was that a billion years ago, or something, one rebel Jedi pulled toward the dark side, and began recruiting followers. The numbers grew very (...) (26 years ago, 27-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Karim Nassar
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Sounds about right to me. By the way, the line from TPM is: Yoda: Always Two, there are. No more; no less. A Master, and an Aprentice. --Karim (26 years ago, 27-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Richard Hrynyszyn
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) knowledge (...) Jedi (...) been (...) Below is a small excerpt from the EP1 Novelization by Terry Brooks that explains the Sith: The Sith had come into being almost two thousand years ago. They were a cult given over to the dark side of the (...) (26 years ago, 27-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | | | | | | On Thu, 27 May 1999 13:44:46 GMT, Richard Hrynyszyn uttered the following profundities... (...) Thanks for the extract. It strikes me as odd, when in five and six, they always detect the most minor disturbance in the force. Is it such that in one (...) (26 years ago, 28-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Steve Campbell
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| | | | | | | | | | Spoilerage to follow: (...) If I am interpreting correctly it was a shot at the unknown-to-them Darth Sidious/Palpatine. In other words: Yoda: "Killed the apprentice we did but who his master is we don't know ." Mace: "Gee, Yoda, I wonder if he will (...) (26 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Lee Jorgensen
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) hehehe ... just as long it's not at a Lightsaber Show ... they do background checks there. :) -- Lee Jorgensen, Programmer/Analyst - Bankoe Systems, Inc. mailto:jorgensen@bankoe.moc <-- reverse moc mailto:ljorgensen@uswest.ten <-- reverse ten (26 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | | On Mon, 24 May 1999 22:04:18 GMT, Charles Spindell uttered the following profundities... (...) This introduces one of many continuity problems between Episode I and IV-VI that I have observed. Obi-Wan was a designation Kenobi was supposed to have (...) (26 years ago, 28-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Joey Feland
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, TPM the book says that Jedi start training at 1 year of age, Yoda probably trains for the first 10 years and then they apprentice with another Jedi for about 20 years afterward. I think th book says Obi-Wan was with QGJ for twenty some (...) (26 years ago, 29-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Tamyra Teed ("Mookie")
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Now that can't work out.. Obi-Wan was only I believe about 17 when Qui-Gon was killed... I think what happened is that Obi-Wan wasn't ready and Yodi took over his training after Qui-Gon met his maker... Do you think not that Yodi would want to (...) (26 years ago, 29-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Joey Feland
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) According to TPM the book Obi-Wan is in his mid twenties. That could still leave about five years with Yoda. Kind of a Jedi kindergarten:) Joey (26 years ago, 29-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | | | | On Sat, 29 May 1999 16:05:00 GMT, Joey Feland uttered the following profundities... (...) Bought and read the book today. Disappointing. Might as well have bought the script. Hoping for more description and insight. Even into just the other members (...) (26 years ago, 29-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes episode 2 spoiler-maybe) —Charles Spindell
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| | | | | | | | (...) I just picked up a series of children books (there are two so far) called Jedi Apprentice and it details how Obi-Wan Kenobi becomes the Padawan of Qui-Gon Jinn. Apparently, infants are taken and trained by Yoda at the Jedi Temple until the age (...) (26 years ago, 31-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler) —Karim Nassar
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| | | | | | (...) Sorry to nit-pick, Todd, but your quote of Yoda is wrong... The actual line is: "Always in motion is the future..." What really got me was that Lucas seems to have broken continuity himself rather badly... In TESB, Obi Wan tells Luke, "You (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | (...) d'Oh! Thanks for the correction! -- that makes a lot more sense now. Shame on me, and I even have the RotJ script book. :-( (...) Hmm, good call. Very odd. Hmm...so was OWK ever (in Ep4) supposed to have been a Jedi Master? Or was he still (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) rather (...) trained (...) Well, this actually bugs me, too, but: At the beginning of the film, Obi-Wan does say that "Master Yoda told me I should be mindful of the future". So, perhaps Yoda trained him from when he was very small, *then* (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (Ep.1 Spoiler) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Well, this is the man who described the events between EP1 and EP4 as 'Darth Vader murdered your father'. So apparently, total honesty is not a requirement for Jedi knighthood. (...) I totally agree. Steve (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (possible spoilers) —Jonathan Nichol
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| | | | | (...) It looks like we're in the minority but my wife and I both hated Episode I and we're huge Star Wars fans. A lot of it was the cartoony effects (we hated the Special Editions too) but mostly it seemed to us the movie had no soul. Nothing seemed (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes spoilers) —Ben Fleskes
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| | | | | I believe the Gungans played an important role from a 'Force' perspective. In order for Anakin to destroy the control ship, the Force must have been with him. Or he was incredibly lucky, but given his character, I believe it is save to say that the (...) (26 years ago, 24-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes spoilers) —Terry Keller
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| | | | | (...) Did OWK have the lightsaber in his hand _before_ his leap? My take on it: DM standing there, smug and self-assured of victory against an unarmed opponent. Just look at how DM swept his saber back and forth right above OWK's head. DM was (...) (26 years ago, 25-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Ep1 peeves (includes spoilers) —Richard Dee
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| | | | On Sun, 23 May 1999 23:56:03 GMT, Todd Lehman uttered the following profundities... (...) Remember, GL wrote the third Indiana Jones film, and ruined some of the characters in that, too. It is his style, a bit of slapstick, and amusing characters. (26 years ago, 28-May-99, to lugnet.starwars)
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