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Re: What's in a theme...
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Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:37:25 GMT
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Hey hey, what I call "classic space" is those sets with visor-less minifigs
and their suits in one colour. But M:tron, futuron etc. is not classic
space. M:tron, futuron is, along with the the "classic space", the Space
theme.
You are right. We need lives.
So, the Space theme consists of the classic sets, and of the sub-themes
(like futuron). That is Space. Oxygen-free environment and all that.
BUT -you say that the minifigs in the command-center is *not* space, since
they take off their helmets. But hey, it´s an enclosed base, only that one
wall has been left out for playability.
TLG has not put the SW sets under the "space" theme, they have their own
theme: the Star Wars theme. They are just Sci-fi. the sub-theme they belong
to is called *licensed sets* ;-) They have not been exclusively designed by
TLg, only that they have been designed in lego bricks after some photos and
drawings of "the real thing".
What I am trying to say is this:
"Space sets" are those that TLG has included in their space theme. It says
"space" on the catalogue pages where the space sets are. But Star Wars are
sets within the SW theme. I could go on forever but I´ll stop there.
--Tobias
> In lugnet.space, Tobias Möller writes:
> > Hmm, no, they are a subtheme within Town. And, not all of the minifigs • have
> > airtanks and helmets. Some people say that Spaceport links together town • and
> > space, as well as Divers link together Town and Aquazone. In my opinion, • SW
> > or SP is *not* space.
>
> I'm ready to dive in here and get SUPER technical!
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> Your argument is valid. I agree that what I would call "Classic Space" • sets
> would include any futuristic theme (Futuron, Spyrius, Unitron, Blacktron, • et
> al, plus whad the Todd calls "Standard" but I call "Classic"...like
> Coca-Cola!), wherein the mini-figures are donning space helmets and • airtanks,
> representing a scenario EXCLUSIVE to an OXYGEN-FREE environment. :-)
>
> We need lives. Let's dig deeper anyway.
>
> OK, so now there's the question of Star Wars being "Space-Themed." Tobias, • you
> argue that since some of the characters in these sets are not wearing • airtanks
> and helmets, and therefore this set is merely "Sci-Fi" and not "Space."
> However, some sets, like the Tie-Fighter/X-Wing set and Naboo Fighter, • involve
> mini-figures in spaceships. The trouble here is that these guys all visit
> planets with breathable atmospheres, while for some reason, TLG-designed • Space
> sets all involved barren wastelands which required airtanks.
>
> There is also the question of SW being futuristic, which is summarily
> discintigrated by the opening text of each Star Wars movie, which reads, "A
> long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." ;-)
>
> Anyway, I just collect the damn SW stuff because, with exception to #6902 • and
> some stupid Kabaya crap, there was no other set released in 1999 even CLOSE • to
> space-themed, which is my theme of choice.
>
> The Space-Port theme is Earth-bound, which ties it more closely to Town, • but
> this is a pretty skimpy tie. It's a "missing-link" between present- and
> future-themes, so it could very well be it's own sub-class. I also present • the
> notion that if a MIR set is ever put out (awesome!!!), then we'd be back to
> square one if all 8 (?) of it's mini-figs came with spacesuits complete • with
> helmets and airtanks...
>
> One final note, to really mess with your head: There is one Classic Space • set
> that features a breathable environment! #926 Space Command Center! Right • on
> the box are featured spacemen with their airtanks removed, and placed on • the
> transparent-clear chair backings behind them.......! According to the
> priciples you've outlined, this set isn't "Classic Space!" :-0
>
> Pick, pick, pick....
>
> Dave (jot and jab)
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| (...) I'm ready to dive in here and get SUPER technical! Your argument is valid. I agree that what I would call "Classic Space" sets would include any futuristic theme (Futuron, Spyrius, Unitron, Blacktron, et al, plus whad the Todd calls "Standard" (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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