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| | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | Jot and Jab skrev i meddelandet ... (...) line-up. (...) No no no, we have had a disscussion about this and Star Wars is *not* Space. SW is "Sci-Fi" like aquazone. How can something without airtubes and real helmets be Space? That little luke fig (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) Does that mean that spaceport or launch command is space? they have helments and airtanks. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | | Hmm, no, they are a subtheme within Town. And, not all of the minifigs have airtanks and helmets. Some people say that Spaceport links together town and space, as well as Divers link together Town and Aquazone. In my opinion, SW or SP is *not* (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | What's in a theme... —Dave Lovelace
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm ready to dive in here and get SUPER technical! Your argument is valid. I agree that what I would call "Classic Space" sets would include any futuristic theme (Futuron, Spyrius, Unitron, Blacktron, et al, plus whad the Todd calls "Standard" (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: What's in a theme... —Dave Lovelace
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | I agree that what I would call "Classic Space" sets (...) I just wanted to correct my typo...Todd calls it "General," not "Standard." Sorry about this detail. Dave (jot and jab) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: What's in a theme... —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I thought I called all the Space sets from 1978 to 1987 "Classic Space." --Todd (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: What's in a theme... —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Classic space sets (or general) are those with minifigs in one color. The rest are subthemes within the actual Space theme. Classic Space was no subtheme, that was just Space. --Tobias (...) et (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: What's in a theme... —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Hey hey, what I call "classic space" is those sets with visor-less minifigs and their suits in one colour. But M:tron, futuron etc. is not classic space. M:tron, futuron is, along with the the "classic space", the Space theme. You are right. We need (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Alex Roode
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes. Spaceport is space, but not Space. (as other people have said before) But tell me this: Would you really say if something is Space or space JUST because they have helmets and airtanks? Like in the game Episode 1 Racer, you can podrace on (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) you (...) the (...) But that´s a computer game, that has nothing to do with LEGO! (...) have (...) Then it would be sci-fi. It is science fiction to be able to live like that, but it is Space when you have airtanks. (...) Inside the ships, (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Alex Roode
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes, but you have to agree, it is fun saying a whole bunch of junk that no one cares about. =) (...) It's also an N64 game, and it's cool! I'll bet I can beat you at it! (...) It is not space when you have airtanks. It is simply "can't survive (...) (25 years ago, 2-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Alex wrote... (...) one (...) You took the words right out of my mouth ;-) (...) before) (...) JUST (...) Racer, (...) We´ll see about that! Okay, so I haven´t got it yet, but when I get it... and when Nintendo releases network capabilities for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) POOP = Piece (made) Out of Other Pieces - a piece which should have been several pieces. CRAPP = Crummy Ramp and Pit Plate - the big raised baseplate with the ramp on the side, or generally, any raised baseplate. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Huh? You mean on the Millenium Falcon, when they were shooting TIE fighters? There were transparent panels between the heroes and their guns. Steve (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | What is space? (was: Re: News on the 2000 space line!) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yes and no. Spaceport and Launch Command are "space" (lowercase 's') and are themes within the LEGO Town System. But they're not "Space" (capital 's') because they're not part of the LEGO Space System. Star Wars isn't "Space" either, but you (...) (25 years ago, 31-Oct-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | (...) As I've heard it from some knowledgeable people, according to TLG's contract with Lucas, Star Wars *IS* Space. LEGO can't put out any "flying spaceships" other than Star Wars sets, for the entire time of the contract. (four more years?) They (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, both Space Port and Rock Raiders feature flying vehicles. They're not "space ships" in the "ordinary" form we know them, though. Space Port only have realistic looking rockets and shuttles, while Rock Raiders has small hover vehicles and (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Star Wars is space. Star Wars is *not* Space. --Todd (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Alex Roode
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| | | | | | | | (...) OooooooooH!!! Secret! Call in the MIB!!!! (...) Yeah sure. Maybe TLG'll make a them called Basetron. Solid bases and tanks. How about hovering tanks that look a lot like spacecraft and the can hover as far as they want? Can TLG make that? (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | (...) Alread taken care of... They should be infiltrating TLG HQ in Billund by now... --Tobias (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | | Tobias Möller wrote in message ... (...) Space. (...) in (...) Yeah, but why would TLG necessarily use this reasoning[1]? For all we know the TLG person answering your mail might think that SW counts as Space, or even the whole company might think (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | | | | Paul Baulch wrote ... (...) Well, maybe, but if they have a Star Wars logo, and it´s printed Star Wars on the package, then... Well, I don´t know. Maybe they could think like that, but... I´ll get my answers in December. (...) I have heard that (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Dave Lovelace
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| | | | | | | | (...) I agree with this point 100%! The people who write letters and answer the phones over in Enfield or Billund usually don't know 99% of the finer points that über-nerds like ourselves are privy to. I'm willing to bet that his/her usage of the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | | | Parallax wrote in message ... (...) Billund (...) are (...) just a (...) in (...) I think that we uber-nerds know a little too much for our own good.... and speculate a thousand times as much. I don't blame them for trying to keep their lives as (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Dave Lovelace
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hee! Todd actually asked me about this before (not about my triple identity, but as to why the last few ASCII characters in my postings get chopped. I still don't know why this happens. I'll clear up my identities for posterity (but don't (...) (25 years ago, 2-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | | | Parallax wrote in message ... (...) a (...) And it was an ugly piece of crud to boot! ;-) Paul [My Page: (URL) Update soon] (25 years ago, 4-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) That sounds likely; it's hard to get across the subtle difference between "space-like" and LEGO System™ Space in spoken converstion, especially when the speaker hasn't studied the historical product line carefully. :) (...) No, the LEGO Star (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Kya Morden
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| | | | | | | (...) *blinks* then what's a subtheme? I always thought that Insectoids and UFO were subthemes. Now I'm confused ^^; Kya (25 years ago, 2-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) There's really no such thing (officially) as a "sub-theme" -- it's just an artificial term cooked up by us fans, just like "Classic Space" and "BURP" and "minifig." JoshuaD once did some Deja-research and told me that it's my fault for (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space, lugnet.admin.database)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —John DiRienzo
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| | | | | | | | My 2 cents about the Lego system/theme controversy... In the 60s, there were no themes, and all Lego toys (I think) were called Lego System (of play). In the 70s, the word system was not used to describe any Lego toys, or themes, etc - there were (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space, lugnet.admin.database)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | <SNIP> (...) Really? I´ve always said "space theme", "castle theme" etc. The system, I thoguht, was all sets with small bricks (duplo is not system). Then, inside the space theme, were several sub-themes like Blacktron. So, if Space is a system, (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) LEGO DUPLO® is "a system," but LEGO DUPLO® is not part of LEGO® System™. (...) No, LEGO Space is not a theme, it's a system within the LEGO® System™ product programme. Blacktron is a play theme within the LEGO Space System, a.k.a. LEGO System™ (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space, lugnet.admin.database)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | Whoa! Now I´m confused :-) Is there anything you *don´t* know about LEGO? I agree that the term "classic" is an unofficial fan-created label. So, if it was called "LEGOLAND Space system", then perhaps it´s the theme LEGOLAND? --Tobias (...) product (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space, lugnet.admin.database)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Dave Lovelace
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| | | | | | (...) Ugh... Tobias! Look what you have started here! :-) "LEGOLAND Space System" is, quite simply, every single space set. "LEGOLAND" is just part of the name. Just as it is part of the name for "LEGOLAND Town System." It's like a surname...they're (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space, lugnet.admin.database)
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| | | | | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Tobias Möller
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| | | | | | <SNIP> (...) I didn´t mean it! AARGH!!! No! Put that piece of insectoid-crap down! Don´t... Make... Me... Build... It ;-) (...) "LEGOLAND" (...) Town (...) Hey, it was just an idea! (...) Yeah, me too. (...) appreciate (...) Hmm, well, if you have a (...) (25 years ago, 3-Nov-99, to lugnet.space, lugnet.admin.database)
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| | | | | Re: News on the 2000 space line! —Frank Filz
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| | | | (...) Those "weather" balloon sightings probably are classified. My father worked for the DOD as a space physicist and he flew several instrumentation balloons. I don't know if they were classified or not, but some of the work he did was classified. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Nov-99, to lugnet.space)
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