 | | Searching for alternatives —Patricio Valarezo
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| | | Hi, my question is as follow: The RCX´s main components are the CPU and the i/o interfaces. Do you know of someone working to make a common computer ( using linux) with some hardware for i/o than works like the RCX? I would like to learn more about (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | (...) Not that I know of - but I think it would be hard to make something as convenient as the RCX from the point of view of nice packaging, connectors that fit the weird Lego electrical connectors (those are pretty clever - take the time to figure (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Patrick Hui
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| | | | check the (URL) ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricio Valarezo To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 1:02 PM Subject: Searching for alternatives Hi, my question is as follow: The RCX´s main components are the CPU and (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | (...) Your best bet would be a Handspring Visor with a Springboard that has inputs and outputs on it... I figure one of them will be along soon. (Waiting for NQC on palm os...) Dean -- Coin-Op's For Sale!: (URL) Lego Workshop: (URL) Lego Club: (URL) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Tim Hatch
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| | | | Would you not lead him off-topic please!!?? There is no Springboard, nor any in the works for large quantities, that remotely allow you to control Legos from a Visor. The closest you can get is attaching the IR tower to its not-quite-serial port (no (...) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | (...) Right now you can use a spring board module that can is compatible with the Mindstorms IR. True it can only mimic what you can capture. But that's a start. I'm waiting on buying a hand held until one of them can use NQC and upload programs and (...) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | (...) The device drivers for the CIR port are being written right now - once those are done, you won't need assembler to drive the port. Since it's mapped onto /dev/ttyS<something>, it's pretty likely that NQC will need nothing more than a recompile (...) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | (...) Can you supply a URL for this Agenda device? I've been unable to locate it. Too many normal "Agenda"'s out there. Thanks Dean -- Coin-Op's For Sale!: (URL) Lego Workshop: (URL) Lego Club: (URL) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | | | (...) (URL) I never tried searching for 'Agenda Linux' Thanks. Dean -- Coin-Op's For Sale!: (URL) Lego Workshop: (URL) Lego Club: (URL) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —John A. Tamplin
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| | | | | | | | (...) I have not received my Agenda yet, but from the mailing list discussions it is not clear how easily the Agenda will be able to receive non-IrDA IR communications. There is an SIR port for input, but I don't know what constraints it has. For (...) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | | (...) [Cross posted to lugnet.robotics.palm] For the Agenda VR3d (Developer/Tech version) it's only $179 USD. That's an incredible price for what you get. Even If I had to create one of them little serial IR devices that someone mentioned being able (...) (24 years ago, 4-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | | | | (...) I actually own one of these devices - and I agree that it's *just* the very thing for Lego robotics. Some caveats: * Whilst it has a 'Commercial IR' port and an 'iRDA' port - the CIR is output-only. It's generally believed that the input iRDA (...) (24 years ago, 4-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's a shame. Being this late in the game I would expect to see USB support and an expansion slot of some kind. (...) The keyboard is said to be IR linked. (...) Ah so I'm assuming it's not enough power to power a IR tower if need be? They (...) (24 years ago, 4-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Oops! I must have mistook the 'wireless' word and imagined the IR part... It connects to the BUS port on the bottom. Rather interesting really. Seems it's a 1.3~ mhz serial bus. Dean -- Coin-Op's For Sale!: (URL) Lego Workshop: (URL) Lego (...) (24 years ago, 4-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.palm)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Tim Hatch
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| | | | | | | | What if we could get the tower circuitry made smaller (as in the classroom transmitter thread). It might be put as a 1/4" thick thing that clamps to the bottom of the device (also have lego studs on it?). Mr. Baker, could you tell us if there's any (...) (24 years ago, 4-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, if you want to hang it of the serial connector (which is *minute* BTW), then the connector itself might be good enough. The case has two small holes (about a millimeter in diameter - two millimeters deep) that are either side of the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | | I have been following this thread with great interest - as an avid seeker of alternatives. I would appreciate a link to some in depth info about the "Agenda" device if there is one. I also have a question; If you are proposing replacing the compute (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Tim Hatch
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| | | | | | | | | Most of what has been discussed has been "How to make Palms or Agendas communicate using IR with 1 or more RCX bricks." I also considered for a while how to do as you say and have the PDA itself power the robot, but if you do so, you'll need a (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Right - which is why I only want to use the PDA as the 'brains' of the robot with the RCX acting as a 'slave' that deals only with the low level mechanisms. (...) Well, I think speed (of communications) *is* an issue - but short of redesigning (...) (24 years ago, 7-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Go to the agenda's site. Click on the Developer program button on the left site and then under QUICK links select the archives... All the info on the meat of the device. Very cool stuff... Dean -- Coin-Op's For Sale!: (URL) Lego Workshop: (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | | | | (...) All the 'good stuff' is on www.agendacomputing.com - check out the 'developer' links. (...) I wasn't proposing to replace the RCX - but merely to use the Agenda to provide *MUCH* more intelligence for the robot. I want to use the Agenda to run (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Mike Fusion
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| | | | | | for those of you who are talking about not wanting to purchase a hand-held, you may want to do a litle research again. if you check the archives there is a thread (in this group) that has a reference to windowsCE. i have usex this and it does work, (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | (...) You mean for creating a custom LED setup for the Serial port? No IR tower? Please post a link to this 'extra' info. Thanks (...) Yes, M$ always leaves a bad taste in my mouth but I have many friends with the Cassiopeia's e-100's and 105's. I (...) (24 years ago, 5-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | | (...) Is it possible to write programs for Wince without a costly development system? The thing about Wince is that it's a heavily cut-down version of a 'real' operating system. The Agenda runs a pretty much complete version of Linux with all the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Iain Hendry
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| | | | | | | "Steve Baker" <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message news:3A7F6BC4.C89353...ail.net... (...) windows, (...) Is that the point? I mean, if you want to program in NQC, why go to all the bother of purchasing this "Agenda" device, trying to hack (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Steve Baker
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm not suggesting that you 'hack into it'...it has a perfectly well documented set of programming tools and is easily interfaced to the PC. I had a new program that I'd written myself running on the Agenda within a half hour of taking it out (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Iain Hendry
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| | | | | | | | | "Steve Baker" <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message news:3A7FFB5B.EF74DE...ail.net... (...) I would agree with that totally - I hadn't realized there was a need for higher computing. (...) ...beacuse I don't write computer programs, and I (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Malcolm S. Powell
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Actually, the "Windows® CE eMbedded Visual Tools 3.0" cost $7.50 direct from Microsoft and let you develop in Visual Basic and C++. The VB is a cut down version, more like VB Script, but will drive the serial port. I have not tried the C++ as (...) (24 years ago, 7-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Dean Husby
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| | | | | | | | (...) Are you attempting the NQC 'port' to the agenda? Please make sure you let us all know how it's going. Here's the four main things I think we all want: 1. Use it as a Remote (1 -255, motors etc) 2. Download Firmware to RCX 3. Download programs (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | | | SV: Searching for alternatives —Thomas Christiansen
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| | | | | | (...) system? Actually it is: "Microsoft eMbedded Visual Tools 3.0: All the tools you need to start developing for The Microsoft® Windows® powered devices. The eMbedded Visual Tools include eMbedded Visual Basic® and eMbedded Visual C++® and the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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| | | | | | Re: Searching for alternatives —Iain Hendry
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| | | | "Dean Husby" <nntp@akasa.bc.ca> wrote in message news:3A7B8DCA.918084...a.bc.ca... (...) the (...) start. (...) Ah, but you can! With my Hewlett-Packard 320 LX, I can connect my Mindstorms IR Tower. I write NQC programs with Microsoft Pocket Word, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Feb-01, to lugnet.robotics)
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