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Re: RSS vs. Atom (was: Attention All RSS Geeks)
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lugnet.publish
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Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:39:02 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Kelly McKiernan wrote:
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Sorry about that, got distracted! Mostly BrickFest, some other things. Back
on it again, and your email from 1 August was very helpful in setting the
direction for LENNI.
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You really shouldn’t have to apologize. I didn’t meant it this way. I just
thought the topic is of no interest, without any subjective assessment. But so
much the better that you carry on with LENNI, I’m really glad about it.
Unfortunalety, I’m not able to write down my “technical” thoughts in English,
for my little brain, too much specific vocabulary is needed :-) So I have a
feeling I can’t participate in the technical discussion in a reasonable way. But
I would like to share some structural thoughts.
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- Providing the news from all participating sites on a central place (e.g. legofan.org)
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LEGOFan.org is a possibility, or one (or several) other sites could host
information about it. That’s one of the things I think is perfect for this
type of project - there doesn’t need to be a central site (except for the
namespace DTD).
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I’m not sure if I understand it correctly. You wrote, a central site is only
needed to specify the DTD. But I think, there have to be also a central site
collecting all news from all sites working with the LENNI criterions. If
not, how can a site owner pick essential information without scanning all
other sites by his own aggregator? Or do you have other plans like synchronized
RSS feeds on all participating sites and each site owner has to filter it’s own
public version by himself? Or maybe I have a wrong idea of what you mean, in
that case, my apology in advance :-)
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I’d love to see as many sites as possible take advantage of LENNI-enhanced
features, but I think it’s also important to not exclude “raw” feeds as well,
e.g. those without the extra LEGO-specific elements.
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I agree with Dan that this should be a matter of those who are using the
enhanced news via LENNI. It’s up to everyone to exclude news which don’t provide
particular sub-elements of an item (or adopting it after reviewing it manually).
The same the other direction: AFAIK nearly all RSS-readers are ignoring
unspecified sub-elements, so even with many sub-elements, LENNI-enhanced RSS
feeds don’t have to be a private party.
IMO that’s how standards are working: You set up the criterions, it’s up to the
client to take advantage of it or not.
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Also, you’d specified earlier:
Subject, Message, Date, Author, Link to a related picture (optional), Link
to the original message or to further information (optional)
I’d like to add things like Event Date Start, Event Date End, Theme(s), Age
(e.g. kids or adults or all), etc.
Is there anything else that should be added as a feature? Keep in mind that
implementation of these features will depend on custom-developed XML
generators and parsers/aggregators, so let’s not get too wild. :)
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Let’s get as wild as we can (like mentioned above). Here are possible ideas for
sub-elements, of course, all should be optional. Most elements should be
standardized to work as a search- or filter-criterion, I’ve marked those
elements with a bold S.
- “region” - S - i.e. North America, Middle and South America, Europe, Australia, Asia, Far East etc. - useful to filter events.
- “country” - S(?) - i.e. USA, Netherlands, Germany etc. - Maybe too much choices to make this element standardized? But it would be useful to find local news.
- “authority” - S - i.e. TLC, Legoland, privat, rumor etc. - from where the source is.
- “age” - S - i.e. AFOLs, Kids etc. or 3+, 4+, 5+ etc. - who could be interested in that particular news
- “???” - S - i.e. collector, builder, parents, seller, site owners etc. - what kind of LEGO Fan could be interested in.
- “category” - S - i.e. MOC, commercial, Review, CAD, Event etc. - would be a very long list of choices.
- “theme” - S - i.e. Castle, Castle, Castle, Trains, Space, Town etc.
- “expiration”> - i.e. Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:00:00 GMT - expiration date for news which should no longer appear on sites after the given date.
- “keynotes” - to have the possibilty to search for news faster than by text searches.
- “inside”(?) - false or true - to give site owners the possibility to provide the news-item for all visitors or to members / visitors who are logged in only etc. - maybe hard to handle.
- “goodnews” - false or true - is it generally good news or bad news. Maybe better would be S positive, neutral, negati
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| (...) Ha! You do better than many native-English speakers I deal with daily. (...) That's a good question. I do think most feeds will end up being served from a centralized server, but that's not an absolute necessity. RSS links can be distributed, (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish, FTX)
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| | Re: RSS vs. Atom (was: Attention All RSS Geeks)
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| (...) Sorry about that, got distracted! Mostly BrickFest, some other things. Back on it again, and your email from 1 August was very helpful in setting the direction for LENNI. (...) I think both Atom and RSS as a base would allow us to do this. (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish, FTX)
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