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Re: Attention all RSS geeks!
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:15:59 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Jake McKee wrote:
> In lugnet.publish, Dan Boger wrote:
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> > I don't think there's much of a difference between emitting Atom or
> > RSS/LENNI, but I don't have that strong a preference. If everyone else
> > is dead against Atom, I'll go with the flow :)
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> I think you're right, at least in theory, that Atom is the better standard,
> simply because it's being designed from day one to be what it is meant to be.
> (Whereas the RSS format has sorta bounced around from concept to concept, then
> was modified and sometimes shoehorned into what it is being used for today).
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> That said, the only thing that worries me about Atom is that it's not a complete
> spec yet. It's still a .93, right? The fear, which because of my lack of
> knowledge about how much standards like this might change as it gets closer to
> 1.0, is that we would work with Atom .9 only to discover that we have to redo
> work when it hits 1.0.
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> Of course, that said, it may be smarter to use the "right" solution and keep up
> with the changes, rather than continuing to develop for a standard that may
> someday go away all together.
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> As Dan says, I'm going with the flow, and am certainly keeping an open mind
> about Atom.
Same here. Good point about spec changes, Jake. I'd love to do a pro/con list of
RSS/Atom, but I don't know enough yet, so I guess I'll have to research that
some more.
My main concern is using something that can be used by the maximum number of
people. If Atom is used by current aggregators and blog software, and it's got
better elements available "out of the box" then it does sound like a definite
advantage.
> > But that's exactly the problem that led to all the browser
> > incompatibility problems. If there's no clear spec, each aggregator (or
> > browser) tries to do it's best... The problem is that each one comes
> > with a different interpetation of what is best, and so the results are
> > slightly different. Then, later, when the technology advances, suddenly
> > these differences are very important.
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> > Even if we do go with RSS, I'd hope that LENNY will have a very well
> > defined spec, so that we can avoid these kind of issues.
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> Well, the nice thing about RSS/Atom vs. Browsers is that incompatibilities (at
> least in theory) shouldn't make for radically different experiences like browser
> differences can/do.
True, let's hope. Yes, I'm hoping LENNI will have a very firm specification that
is easy to implement - hence the proposed use of custom namespaces.
Looks like Atom vs. RSS is a bigger issue than I initially thought:
http://www.lawtechguru.com/archives/2004/02/16_rss_vs_atom_continues.html
http://www.lawtechguru.com/archives/2004/02/13_the_great_rss_vs_atom_news_feed_debate.html
http://news.com.com/2009-1032-5059006.html
Just what have I stepped into? ;)
Even after reading all that, it's still not black-and-white for me to point to
one over the other. I guess time for more reading. Dan, thanks for bringing up
Atom, I had no idea it even existed before this, and now is the perfect time to
decide core-level structure for LENNI.
- Kelly
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| (...) Heh, the biggest political fight of recent techies. Used to be XML, but that has settled down considerably. I used to follow the fight, but got really tired of it... I did come the conclusion that Mark Pilgrim (of the Atom side) knows what (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish)
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| (...) I think you're right, at least in theory, that Atom is the better standard, simply because it's being designed from day one to be what it is meant to be. (Whereas the RSS format has sorta bounced around from concept to concept, then was (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish)
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