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Re: Attention all RSS geeks!
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:44:47 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Dan Boger wrote:

I don't think there's much of a difference between emitting Atom or
RSS/LENNI, but I don't have that strong a preference.  If everyone else
is dead against Atom, I'll go with the flow :)

I think you're right, at least in theory, that Atom is the better standard,
simply because it's being designed from day one to be what it is meant to be.
(Whereas the RSS format has sorta bounced around from concept to concept, then
was modified and sometimes shoehorned into what it is being used for today).

That said, the only thing that worries me about Atom is that it's not a complete
spec yet. It's still a .93, right? The fear, which because of my lack of
knowledge about how much standards like this might change as it gets closer to
1.0, is that we would work with Atom .9 only to discover that we have to redo
work when it hits 1.0.

Of course, that said, it may be smarter to use the "right" solution and keep up
with the changes, rather than continuing to develop for a standard that may
someday go away all together.

As Dan says, I'm going with the flow, and am certainly keeping an open mind
about Atom.


But that's exactly the problem that led to all the browser
incompatibility problems.  If there's no clear spec, each aggregator (or
browser) tries to do it's best...  The problem is that each one comes
with a different interpetation of what is best, and so the results are
slightly different.  Then, later, when the technology advances, suddenly
these differences are very important.

Even if we do go with RSS, I'd hope that LENNY will have a very well
defined spec, so that we can avoid these kind of issues.

Well, the nice thing about RSS/Atom vs. Browsers is that incompatibilities (at
least in theory) shouldn't make for radically different experiences like browser
differences can/do.

Jake
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Jake McKee
Webmaster - BIP
http://www.bricksonthebrain.com



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Attention all RSS geeks!
 
(...) Same here. Good point about spec changes, Jake. I'd love to do a pro/con list of RSS/Atom, but I don't know enough yet, so I guess I'll have to research that some more. My main concern is using something that can be used by the maximum number (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish)
  Re: Attention all RSS geeks!
 
(...) Well, as long as the content you're feeding it is pure ascii. For instance, getting LUGNET posts to be valid RSS was not as easy as I thought it would be. Making one for 1000stein would be even harder. Dealing with charsets, embedded images (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish)

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  Re: Attention all RSS geeks!
 
(...) AFAIK, yes - most CMSs, and almost all aggregators do support atom. (...) I don't think there's much of a difference between emitting Atom or RSS/LENNI, but I don't have that strong a preference. If everyone else is dead against Atom, I'll go (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.publish)

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