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Hey guys, So, at the suggestion Trevyn Watson, I've been reading the controversy over the colour change stuff. Who the hell are these people? First, I long gave up on the idea that the "classic" colours were going to stay "classic" forever. Copious (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) being the one that sent the first e-mail here about it (though I was ONLY A MESSENGER), I feel pretty bad about how some of the posts presented us. I'm pretty ashamed too. Joe Meno .space paparazzi! (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: ==8<-- (...) Replace "LEGO" with "Coaster" and "LEGO Group" with "SixFlags" or the like, and you begin to understand exactly why I'm ashamed to call myself a coaster enthusiast. It's why I don't wear (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) (snip lots of ranting and raving about people ranting and raving) (...) You're absolutely right, Calum. I feel so ashamed for being a shrewd consumer and actually expecting a company that I do several hundred dollars worth of business with (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I was just looking out the window, and I noticed there are only two shades of grey in the world. It's really odd that the building that's been standing there for 20 years is exactly the same shade as the one they built last week. hmm. (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) What I disagree with is the expectation that you believe you deserve something out of this transaction or that you are the target consumer. I encourage you to stop buying Lego and put your money where your mouth is. If you don't like it, (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Sarcasm, thy name is Chris... (...) a) it's rtlToronto, a local sub group that specifically caters to the greater toronto and Southern Ontario area, in which we're all friends and hang out and shoot the breeze and have the 'worlds best robot (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Hmm, I'm going to need more Plano boxes. Derek (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Just trying to fit in. (...) I know it's a local group, but what wows me is that the average rtlToronto-er doesn't seem to grasp that the list gets cross-posted to LUGNET for all to see. It's not like we all go out of our way to follow what's (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) _Hey! ;-) -R (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) My thoughts exactly! (...) Kevin (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You don't have to hear us if you don't want to. Just add: -.org.ca.rtltoronto to your skip-filter settings (URL) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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<lots of snippage> (...) Relax...take a breath...and your going about it the wrong way trying to fit in. The vast majority of us...well at least Dave and I have read all about the "current" state of LEGO (color change and all). I have to agree with (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Did Derek just say something? I must've applied a filter or something.... /ignore Derek :) Love it when a plan comes together Dave K -old adage--no one beats up my kid brother but me (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) It's okay, what I'm saying is you are to the LEGO community probably what I as a European flatride enthusiast am to the general coaster enthusiast community. I remember when I started to despise "coaster" enthusiasts. I remember that day well. (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Phillips wrote: (snip) (...) wait a minute, so you're saying that your voice is more important than anyone else's? I will have to differ with that! I see rtl's use of LUGNET to chat as a good use of the medium. And (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Actually most of the new colour upset me, especially colours that are very close to each other until you put them together, e.g. light yellow. To me they are sorting headache, although they are good trade away pieces. At least I have some real (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(snip) (...) ....and trying to tell rtlToronto that its opinions don't mean nothing. Ben (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Iain Hendry wrote: <snip> (...) When talking with Allan at the hobby show, he was making astute observations, linking the similarities between the history of the Mecanno company and the history of TLC, as well ad the (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Ka-On Lee wrote: <snip> (...) I liked Znap! Made a train bridge the other day and really aprpeciated it! Wish I was awake enuf at the time to realize the Zellers sale! Grr!!! Anyone have extra Znap that's just sitting (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Oooh.. let me try! rtlToronto, your opinions don't mean nothing! (undo ALL the negatives in the above to see what I really think) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Where did I say that? What I was trying to say is that it's one thing for you guys to bash each other because you know each other and it's all in good fun. It's a somewhat different thing to use strong phrases like "who the hell are these (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I'm into Znap, too. I grabbed up a bunch of it from other locals who only bought it for the cheap motors. Loved your bridge, BTW. (...) And not to post a big fat "me too", but... - Chris. p.s. On that note, I'll go back to lurking again. (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Quoting Iain Hendry <ihendry@ventax.com>: (...) You actually see this in a lot of hobbies, not just these. People that only buy the pre-1980 barbies, people in aquarium clubs that only do salt water (fresh isn't challenging, etc), people in biking (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) [big ranting snip] (...) I agree with nearly everything you've said, Calum. I, however, am not ashamed to be a Lego enthusiast. I just don't have the same opinions about this topic as some other AFOLs do. LEGO HAS changed the gray before, (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) My message isn't so much about rtlToronto (we're just having fun most of the time) as the litany of traffic I've seen. I chose those words and I meant them: I'm not joking about it. (Unlike most of my conversations with Chris) I do think this (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Good post. Strongly worded, but good. I certainly respect people's rights to do what they want in this case. If they want to boycott, organize protests, whatever - go for it, knock yourself out. But unfortunately I suspect that complaining to (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I nominate Chris to the board of Lego Directors--then let's see how well he can run the Lego company. If selected, all of Lugnet should have his personal e-mail if such position is offered--so we, as the premier fan community, and all-knowing (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Scott Lyttle wrote: (snip) (...) Well worded! Now I know who to read:) (As if I didn't know before) Joe Meno (21 years ago, 27-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Calum...Next time I see you, be prepared to be ridiculed mercilessly by me...for creating this BIG stinking mess. What were you thinking?? (and don’t answer me...there is no possible satisfactory answer!) Bruce (21 years ago, 27-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: <snip> (...) Hi! My name's Dave and I support TLC In the past few weeks since this colour issue has been blown completely out of proportion to the actual issue, I have called S@H and spoke with a few (...) (21 years ago, 28-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.general)
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<snippage> (...) This color issue isn't going to stop me from buying LEGO from retailers, from Shop@Home, or from the secondary market (Bricklink or Ebay). ....agreeing with most of what Dave has posted... <more snippage> (...) I somewhat agree with (...) (21 years ago, 28-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote: Snip! (...) Woah I can't believe I missed your original posting! I totally agree with what you've said. Although I'm not too happy with TLC's decision to change some of the colours, it's not the end of (...) (21 years ago, 28-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I really like Calum. He hit the nail on the head, and has said pretty much everything I'd want to say. I've given up taling about the colour issue over at fbtb.net,where I usually "hang out." But Calum said everything I wish I had. On a (...) (21 years ago, 29-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) LOL and there's still plenty of people complaining that technic bricks dont have studs any more. And probably a few stopped buying technic because of it. I don't see any technic sets going back to studded beams yet.... But guess what? The (...) (21 years ago, 30-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) While we're dishing out psychological diagnoses to people we've never met... (URL) this helps! - Chris. (21 years ago, 30-Nov-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Yes, exactly! That's what all the poeple who are phoning up LEGO to rudely complain should also look in to. Thank you. -Greg (21 years ago, 1-Dec-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I dunno--most of my sarcastic attitude comes from 'Seinfeld', not some deeply rooted hostile nature. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Dave K -king of the castle, master of my domain. (21 years ago, 1-Dec-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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