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Re: r10 Project X -- Rules update
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Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:02:31 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, David Koudys writes:
K, here’s the thing—if we do head-to-head competitions, there are only 2
‘bots involved at a time.  There will be one winner and one loser.  Just
like the block sorting ‘bots--every ‘bot will eventually play every other
‘bot in subsequent heats.

The reason I don’t appreciate stop watches is that someone has to use them.
One person to each ‘bot and the definition of ‘done’ per person is grossly
inaccurate.  Since, at the rate we’re going, all these ‘bots are going to be
finishing close to the same time (under 40 sec for anti-‘X’), there may be
some disputes if someone thinks their ‘bot finished before the timer is
stopped.  I know that in my program right now, the ‘bot moves off the board
when it places the last block, so you can see the entire surface and judge
and/or set up for the next ‘bout.  Will timer guy click stop when the last
block is placed, when the arm lifts off it, or when the ‘bot parks off the
board, or anytime inbetween?  The less reliance on ‘exacting mearsurements’
the easier I think the competition will be.  I do have the ‘bot beep when it
thinks it’s done.

Per head to head competition:

50 points for finishing first
-10 points for incorrect blocks.  We know they’re incorrect because they’re
not in the square
+5 points for good block (whether on side or just in square, not meshing)
+10 points for every perfect (meshing studs) block

Hard to dispute any of these criteria

Here’s how things may unfold

‘Bot 1 finishes first +50
has 2 incorrect –20
has 4 good +20
has 2 perfect +20

for 70 points

‘Bot 2, with a full set of perfect has +80 (‘bot 2 deserves to win in this
instance, for ‘bot 1 could have done the thing in 10 seconds but did a poor
job doing it.  ‘Bot 2, taking a whole minute, but achieved a *perfect * run,
is, imho, a better ‘bot.)

Here’s the thing, if ‘bot 2 has 1 incorrect block, tie score
If ‘bot 2 has 1 incorrect and one good, score down to 65, ‘bot 1—the faster
‘bot, wins.


If your ‘bot is better (and it should be), the bout might look like this:
‘Bot 1 (Runamok Design Team)
+50 finishing first
+50 (5 perfect)
+10 (2 good)
-10 (1 dropped because some kid, pointing at Chris’s ‘bot and saying, ‘Hey
Mister…’ accidentally knocked my ‘bot, thus causing the block to drop)
= 100 points
‘Bot 2
+80 (8 perfect blocks)
= 80 points

I favour speed insofar as the ‘bot still attempts to make an ‘x’ pattern.
You get a ‘bot that says it’s done at the beginning of the match, gets +50,
but all those misplaced blocks will make sure it loses.  If the random
pattern has 6 or more correct blocks at the start (hopefully not!) is the
only way a non-moving ‘bot can win for sure.  (+50 for finishing first, +60
for 6 perfect, -20 for incorrect = total of 90)


So far, me likey!!! :)

Over the course of the day, with subsequent matches, the faster ‘bots will
tend to win.  Ben can add up all the wins at the end of the day and come up
with an overall winner


ix-nay on enbay!!! I am going to Virginia that weekend.... the thing that
sucks...is I am off Thursday and Friday, but have to leave Thursday afternoon
for the flight.  Won't be home until Sunday afternoon.  Trip courtesy of
Uncle Sam.

<snip the rest...>

Ben

pretend I will be there keeping score!!!



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(...) You can't use 'enbay' for the eBay police will come and sue the pants off you I had the link but lost it ;p Oh forget the violent army, do a peaceful 'bot competition in Toronto Dave (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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K, here’s the thing—if we do head-to-head competitions, there are only 2 ‘bots involved at a time. There will be one winner and one loser. Just like the block sorting ‘bots--every ‘bot will eventually play every other ‘bot in subsequent heats. The (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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