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Re: r10 Project X -- Rules update
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Date: 
Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:02:31 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, David Koudys writes:
> K, here’s the thing—if we do head-to-head competitions, there are only 2
> ‘bots involved at a time.  There will be one winner and one loser.  Just
> like the block sorting ‘bots--every ‘bot will eventually play every other
> ‘bot in subsequent heats.
> 
> The reason I don’t appreciate stop watches is that someone has to use them.
> One person to each ‘bot and the definition of ‘done’ per person is grossly
> inaccurate.  Since, at the rate we’re going, all these ‘bots are going to be
> finishing close to the same time (under 40 sec for anti-‘X’), there may be
> some disputes if someone thinks their ‘bot finished before the timer is
> stopped.  I know that in my program right now, the ‘bot moves off the board
> when it places the last block, so you can see the entire surface and judge
> and/or set up for the next ‘bout.  Will timer guy click stop when the last
> block is placed, when the arm lifts off it, or when the ‘bot parks off the
> board, or anytime inbetween?  The less reliance on ‘exacting mearsurements’
> the easier I think the competition will be.  I do have the ‘bot beep when it
> thinks it’s done.
> 
> Per head to head competition:
> 
> 50 points for finishing first
> -10 points for incorrect blocks.  We know they’re incorrect because they’re
> not in the square
> +5 points for good block (whether on side or just in square, not meshing)
> +10 points for every perfect (meshing studs) block
> 
> Hard to dispute any of these criteria
> 
> Here’s how things may unfold
> 
> ‘Bot 1 finishes first +50
> has 2 incorrect –20
> has 4 good +20
> has 2 perfect +20
> 
> for 70 points
> 
> ‘Bot 2, with a full set of perfect has +80 (‘bot 2 deserves to win in this
> instance, for ‘bot 1 could have done the thing in 10 seconds but did a poor
> job doing it.  ‘Bot 2, taking a whole minute, but achieved a *perfect * run,
> is, imho, a better ‘bot.)
> 
> Here’s the thing, if ‘bot 2 has 1 incorrect block, tie score
> If ‘bot 2 has 1 incorrect and one good, score down to 65, ‘bot 1—the faster
> ‘bot, wins.
> 
> 
> If your ‘bot is better (and it should be), the bout might look like this:
> ‘Bot 1 (Runamok Design Team)
> +50 finishing first
> +50 (5 perfect)
> +10 (2 good)
> -10 (1 dropped because some kid, pointing at Chris’s ‘bot and saying, ‘Hey
> Mister…’ accidentally knocked my ‘bot, thus causing the block to drop)
> = 100 points
> ‘Bot 2
> +80 (8 perfect blocks)
> = 80 points
> 
> I favour speed insofar as the ‘bot still attempts to make an ‘x’ pattern.
> You get a ‘bot that says it’s done at the beginning of the match, gets +50,
> but all those misplaced blocks will make sure it loses.  If the random
> pattern has 6 or more correct blocks at the start (hopefully not!) is the
> only way a non-moving ‘bot can win for sure.  (+50 for finishing first, +60
> for 6 perfect, -20 for incorrect = total of 90)


So far, me likey!!! :)

> Over the course of the day, with subsequent matches, the faster ‘bots will
> tend to win.  Ben can add up all the wins at the end of the day and come up
> with an overall winner


ix-nay on enbay!!! I am going to Virginia that weekend.... the thing that
sucks...is I am off Thursday and Friday, but have to leave Thursday afternoon
for the flight.  Won't be home until Sunday afternoon.  Trip courtesy of
Uncle Sam.

<snip the rest...>

Ben

pretend I will be there keeping score!!!



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(...) You can't use 'enbay' for the eBay police will come and sue the pants off you I had the link but lost it ;p Oh forget the violent army, do a peaceful 'bot competition in Toronto Dave (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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K, here’s the thing—if we do head-to-head competitions, there are only 2 ‘bots involved at a time. There will be one winner and one loser. Just like the block sorting ‘bots--every ‘bot will eventually play every other ‘bot in subsequent heats. The (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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