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Re: use of anagram fun is bad in lugnet.general
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lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto
Date: 
Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:10:43 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang writes:

<snip>

I find your self appointed, self rationalized, policing a little arrogant.
I've spoken to a few people here in Toronto this evening and I think it's
the crosspost to admin/general that flaunted pseudo-authority that got me
and others a bit ticked.  You don't get to say "Take it or leave it",
Suzanne does.*

* and of course, she has said so :)

But the problem is that she shouldn't HAVE to say so each and every time.
LUGNET is a community. As such, community members ought to be able to help
each other out in conforming to the norms without it generating a huge
backlash against "policing". I want a community, not a "we get away with
anything we like until the officials speak up" society here.

Do you really want Suz to read each and every post and be the only person
who keeps the community centered? Have mercy! You know not what you ask,
she'd have time for nothing else, no eating, no sleeping, nothing.

Upright community members helping steer things is a *good* thing, not a bad
one. You ought to be thankful Tim cares enough to speak up when things leak
out of your group into .general instead of giving him grief about it. (1)
Tim is *caring* not *arrogant*.

http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=9984

(which relates to helping ensure things are posted in the right place, but
the sentiment carries across, I'm sure of it.)

What I think is *arrogant* is those carrying on about it until Suz herself
had to step in. It was as if some of you were a bunch of kids who wouldn't
listen to reason but instead had to have Mommy tell them to stop before they
would stop (and then started complaining again after she left). (that's not
directed to you, Calum... I just want to make only one post about this
rather than the bunches I could make instead so it's tucked in here)

This is an admin.general issue but I've left it posted just here for now.

1 - to a certain extent you guys DO get a bit of a pass on norms, stuff
confined to just rtlToronto seems to be considered a bit more laxly against
the ToS (as does, for example, loc.au) because you sort of have subcommunity
norms.

But that's a happy accident rather than an innate right, and if you flaunt
it too far, or if you consistently leak over into groups that are more
widely read, there may well be people suggesting that the ToS be enforced
more rigorously here in this newsgroup than it is.

++Lar



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  Re: use of anagram fun is bad in lugnet.general
 
(...) Oooh, my second posting to a Larry post (too bad it has to be about this issue :( for I appreciate Larry, and Tim and everyone I've had dialogues with and or/read on LUGNet... In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Tim Courtney writes: (...) Both are (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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(...) Tim, I understand your good intentions. I think no one is doubting that Iain and Richard were against TOS. And you're right, we're all the guests of Todd/Suzanne or whoever is running Lugnet these days. However, you also have no authority for (...) (23 years ago, 16-Jan-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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