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(...) PC-DOS?!? 6.3 ?!?! Ewwww. There. Now that that's off my chest: Just get a set of 6.22s - available prolly even legally very cheap. And they're only 3 disks, and a better dos than pc-dos :) Jasper (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Didn't PC-DOS have a bunch of really cool features that MS-DOS never had, such as reliable task-switching and reliable disk compression, among other things? I'm always looking out for good replacements for MS-DOS, from the 4DOS replacement (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) If you _really_ want a command line interface that runs on pretty modest comps, install Linux. Slackware 3.4 works off of 4 megs, even, with some fiddling. Actually, my sentiments run more like: ewwww. DOS. :) Jasper (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I'm not familiar with PC-DOS, but all versions of MS-DOS up through 6.22 run great on 1MB. Even 640K. Anything more than that is just for improved application functionality/performance. Steve (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well, disk compression sucks whatever the platform, and task-switching without the facility to see both programs at the same time, and preferably at least semi-true multitasking, so both run at the same time, is only half a solution. Besides, (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) True. But with a 640k MSDOS machine, anything more than wp5.1 is taxing. With a 4 meg, 386sx/16 Linux machine, you can be fully connected to the internet, as a server, bridge, router, or brouter, even, without much trouble. Jasper (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No you can't. :) You can do some of that, yes. Whether or not you would shoot yourself in the head waiting for it is another matter. Although I'm sure a 386sx/16 with 4 megs could probably dial in and run telnet just fine. (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ah, so you're gonna run X on that 386/16 with 4 megs? :) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yes. (...) I was never a great fan of DOS...my introduction to PC's came when 3.1 windows was around. (Though then one needed to know DOS to get the most out of it....). I will be buying a couple of refurb 486's that my employers will be (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) But not as cheap as legally free........ 5 would be about right then..... (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Sure you can. :) (...) Not really. A server might be slightly slow. Only for say, hosting your scans of instructions so KL can pick them up. I'm talking low-bandwidth applications here. Like, a router for one or two, maybe three people. I know (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Errr.. You prolly could, if you're just planning on running several Xterms... which was kinda the thing I meant. Actually, right here, i was just talking about DOS. You run DOS to play Doom, is about my assessment of the current situation in (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hmm. I doubt they're the full cd's. Lemme pop my RedHat 5.1 and SuSe 5.0 CD's in my tray and check... Lesse: RH 5.1 (btw, 5.2 is out now.): 577 Megs. Suse 5.2:: 624 megs Slackware 3.5: 645 megs... Anyway, I doubt you'll see two full distro's (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Go with RedHat. For the novice the installation can't be beat. I'm still a novice, so I can say that. I'm waiting a few weeks for Linuxppc to come out with R5. I'll order it then and put it on my G3 at work so I can at least dual-boot into a (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Wow, that's a helluva deal. I thought getting Redhat 5.1 for $1.99 from www.cheapbytes.com was a good deal. Used Star Office yet? I think I'm going to dl it tomorrow since we have it on our Sunsite mirror and give it a shot. (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Really? I have a 386/40 (with an upgrade chip to TI 486/40) sitting here doing diddly. You're tempting me to try Linux on it. Like I really need something new to spend time on.... -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Biggest problem would probably be disk space. If you're going for a good distribution + X, you'd need in the order of 2-300 megs or so. in 80-100 megs, you can just about the most basic tasks , and be a router/gateway. And maybe an inhouse (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Actually, Linux has been pretty much stationary lately... too much other stuff to do :( (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Doom runs nicely on Linux. (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Go for it. But don't even bother trying X -- the fun will vanish. (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ok, I had a look. The directory named "Suse" weighs in at 448MB, with the total space used on the CD being 648MB. How much is actually all Suse and the rest DOS/Win format support files I don't know. 'Tis 5.2, kernel 2.0.34. Does this seem (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I know there are quite a few different flavours of the stuff, so my question would be, "Does software, such as SIAG office, work on both???" Or is the software usually written with the one version in mind. I need a new hard disk, 1.6GB doesn't (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hmm. bad example, you're right. I pick one of the two commercial games that's been ported successfully. Aarg. (at least, popular ones that I know of, aka, doom and quake.) Jasper (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) It should work on both. In some cases, you'll need to do more tweaking if you're using a distribution other than the one the app was targeted at. (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) And Ultima Online. (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ultima Online can be played on Linux? Or do the servers run on Linux? I wasn't aware that they sold (or provided along with the wintel) a Linux version. Speaking of other OS's, though, I just installed BeOS 3.1 on one of our Macs today. Would (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) There's actually a linux client. It's pretty new, so I haven't actually checked it out -- I subscribed this summer, but dropped it because I have an actual life. :) Check this out: ftp://leper.owo.com/...client.tgz (...) Yeah, I've seen Be on (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Cool, it has a WD 340 meg drive. Sucker cost $400 dollars new at the time. <shudder> Just think what that can buy now in a hard drive. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Going to a totally different sort of off-topiuc now, to keep this thread alive :) When I bought my first comp, from my very own money, I bought a DX2/66/4 meg/420 meg/14" thingy for $1000, added extra 4 meg (at a friggin' $160), and some (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Oh that was the time...mine had a cost of exact 1250$ (in 1992) including 15% tax and had: 386SX 16 cpu with appropriate mathco 1 MB RAM (not even as 30 pin simms, but as 44256 individual chips) an Oak 067 VGA card with 256 KB of mem 40 MB HDD (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Sucks, doesn't it? I would LOVE to have a new bleeding edge computer, but I hate that feeling of buyers remorse when the price drops soon thereafter. (...) Hey, that's what this groups for. :-) I remember my dad jumping on the computer (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 01:51:26 GMT, "Selçuk <teyyareci>" <sgore@nospam.superonline.com> wrote: <snip> Selçuk, this is completely irrevelent, but I was just wondering about the <teyyareci> in your header. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yeah, well, technically :) (...) *winces* Well, my current system config includes:a Iiyama Visiomaster Pro 17, a Keytronic KB101 PLUS Professional series keyboard I bought second-hand for $10 about 4 or 5 years ago, washed it, and won't be (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Cool. Why both power supplies? You running a dozen HD's in there or something? Sounds interesting. (...) Mrmmm? N-cube? You mean the ram has a 10 year warranty or does N-cube make something else? A buddy showed me a website once of a company (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Is it really a stupid DOS question?..:-D Teyyareci is an old word (used during the first half of the century), coming from Arabic, and meaning is "aviator" or "pilot". Old timers (I mean the grandma- grandpa generation) call aircrafts as "teyyare" (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Terry K wrote in message <36731cf0.713752@lugnet.com>... (...) My brother-in-law (at the time) heard I was taking a computer class, and wanted me to do this huge databasing (is that where you melt floppies in a silver spoon and inject them directly (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) That is much more than I imagined. Notice that I was careful to not even try to guess. Good thing, too, because my guesses were way off. To say the least. It did not seem like a proper name, last name or title, and the idea of a nickname did (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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fun what fun, staring at a chip on your video baord becuase probe won't work is fun. Trying to get a stink program to fit on your monitor because a %^$ programmer has a %$$ 21 inch monitor at a billion by a billion resolution. If that's fun, I pity (...) (26 years ago, 23-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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