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(...) Quite. That, quoting Churchill, is something "up with which I will not put"... (...) Saw Bicentennial Man today, it made me cry. A lot. Here's a question for you: Would you give up practical immortality in order to be officially recognised as (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Por moi? I will reserve judgment on Bi-man until I see it tomorrow or Thurs, but my initial reaction from trailers is that this whole topic was dealt with quite elegantly in ST:TNG with the character of Data. The author of Ecclesiastes was (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) James Brown for Precedent! Al Gore for Vice-Precedent (cuz after all he invented the internet)! (...) put"... Hee, I'd forgotten about that gem! :D (...) That, indeed, would be a precedent. (...) you: (...) recognised as (...) For all incense (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) The "rule" about prepositions ending sentences is an archaic Victorianism, an effort to "Latinize" English. Since English is a Germanic language, and German has prepositions at the end of sentences all of the time (separable prefixes and all (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) "the Positronic Man" is credited in the opening credits as the basis. (...) Very few gimmicky laughs. One that *I* laughed at was the display of the 3 laws (quoted word for word from Asimov) in the very beginning. As for sentimentality, I (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ugh. No thanks, I'd rather be behind the throne. Setting precedent and all that... (...) I have no idea. Having 'recognized as human' being a given my entire life, I am a poor judge of it's value. (and I have no intention, regardless of (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) Don't answer so fast! you may change your mind later. And if you choose one way, you CAN change your mind, if you choose the other, you can't. I think most of us would be delighted to live a bit longer than we currently think is what's (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) Actually, the whole immortality thing is something I have thought about a fair bit. I hadn't considered the 'recognized as human' angle before, but it's IMHO irrelevant to the main thrust - I wouldn't want to be immortal. I'd love to be able (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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"LP" == Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> writes: LP> Wired, I think it was this month, rag that it is, had an LP> interesting plot of predicted life expectancy. Being born next LP> year doubles it from being 40, like I am, according to them. LP> (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) And Bill Clinton did the intern-ette... (...) Or setting on the throne. <Sorry. I know that stunk. Either sue me or light a match> (...) theatre? Puleeze McBritawannabe. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) It basically boils down to this: if you give in on prepositions, then before you know it, we will be saying "ain't", "chilrun", and "me and her went". It's about preserving the language from the illiterates, who are legion. Don't get me (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) You say that as a mortal. :-) I don't want to .debate this, but I do want to highlight (and I guess I may be spoiling some of the plot here) that this character already WAS immortal, practically. He was faced with the choice of trading it away (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What part of speech would it be then, exactly? (...) That's not really a strong argument, because why should the "literate" minority hold sway over the masses? Seems kind of elitist to me. Further, that slippery-slope reasoning is inherently (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) "We" (who?) already are saying those things, statistically. We just shouldn't write them. What do you mean, "giving in?" This isn't even an issue of grammatical correctness--it's an issue of style. There is no rule in English that prohibits (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) LOL! :) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator/CAD Operator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) put"... (...) an (...) German has (...) and all (...) about "no (...) to (...) infinitive (...) before you know (...) started on (...) write them. (...) correctness--it's (...) and it's (...) that created (...) "split (...) have you (...) two (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not to insult or something, but being immortal is much more than 200 years. It's for eternity. If you can't grasp eternity, think 1 million years. (which is nothing compared to eternity.) Think of this - everybody you know dies. You meet new (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) "Aaaah! Suffice to say, 'tis the one word the Knights cannot stand to hear!" -LFB (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not to insult or something but I didn't say that immortality was the same thing as living for 200 years, I merely said that I could easily see wanting to go 200 years and that I would like to have a choice about how long to live rather than a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Now there's a precedent for vice! (...) light a (...) I'd rather give you a swirly. (...) left (...) Actually, I find it easier to type 'theatre' than 'theater'. But I draw the line at 'meter' vs 'metre'. That just looks too French. And I (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) I think it's incumbent upon us to recognize this. (...) I'm bowled over by the mere thought. T'anks, I'm flush with horror now! (...) My understanding from most "genuine" Scots of my acquaintance is that they don't mind being British, but (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) You know, Wild Bill's statement gets a lot of press, and rightly so, given its idiocy. However, a considerable amount of time and effort has been spent in the field of Philosophy to resolve exactly this question, so we can't simply act as (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) currently (...) years. (...) (which (...) That makes your point clearer. In that case, I agree. (...) Yes, I am E2L (or ESL), and thanks for the tip. -Shiri (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) As well as in a little story called bicentennial man which happens to predate STTNG by quite a while. Jasper "what do you mean, posting while drunk on too much bubbly is bad?" Janssen (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) Not to mention the execrable Buck Rogers TV series. At least STTNG took the bull by the horns in Season One by identifying the positronic brain as Asimov's vision. It's not as though they were trying to fool anyone. Dave! (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.pun)
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(...) You create a bit of universe, make a planet, seed it with nearly intelligent simians, and toy with them for a few million years... You watch them shoot nuclear explosion amounts of fireworks in the sky one millennium.. Jasper (total fireworks (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Wouldn't that mean that it's more on the "corporate" side? I wouldn't exactly call typical pointy-haired corporate weenies "heavy". (...) I think the name is probably right. I believe the term most often used to refer to her is "cast-iron (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) NORAD almost freaked at the triple Scud launch near Midnight, Moscow time, that was taken as a nuke launch at first--turns out they were just sending some Happy New Year missiles to Chechnya. :( Stupid gits. (Not Russians in general, just (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) What about the childrens' balloons from one of those "whose gets the farthest when the ticket is returned" which were detected as incoming nukes by the Russian aged and failing early-warning system a few months/years back? (...) Yup. Our $100 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I forgot about those! Imagine being the third-grader who started WWIII... (...) In Michigan, if it flies or explodes, it's illegal. Feh. (...) Counting national assets is pretty anachronistic. Most Dutch investment is highly transnational--I (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) And they started singing: Whoa-hoa, this here Anakin guy, maybe....<scratch> <muffle> <mike feedback> Oops. I-uh.. wrong song. Let's try this again, shall we.. One two, three four! Hast du etwas Zeit für mich Dann singe ich ein Lied für dich (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) "My fellow Americans, I have just signed legislation that outlaws Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." Thanks for typing those words--I've always been able to remember little swatches of the German version, but I can't think in (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <Snip Nena><I thought they only did that to males? -- Shut up, Pinky.> (...) To tell you the truth, I copied them off a random web page this time. I didn't have the .mp3 handy, or I'd have typed it in. (...) Nah, my second language is English, (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ya know, they don't play that enough any more. Funny thing is, the German version seems to be more popular than the English version. On the radio stations I listen to, at least. I like listening to songs in some foreign languages. You can pay (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <neunundneunzig luftballons> (...) That's because the translation is, if you'll pardon the expression, a load of donkey's faeces. It loses the story, and the emotional loading completely. If you understand german, you know that ;) (...) Yup. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) That explains why the two versions are so similar. Same thing happens with Japanese songs redone in English. (...) Well, I don't understand german, although I do know a few words. Actually, I know slightly more Japanese, and I'm learning more (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) They sound very similar - but the english loses a few big parts of the story, and somehow it manages to convey pretty much no emoption at all. I suspect the translation was done more on "scanning" well and sounding similar than on content. (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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[discussing "99 Luftballoons"] (...) I was curious and found a link that shows a side by side comparision of the English version and a translation of the original German lyrics. (URL) "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily" (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) spirit well". I mean, sure, there are obviously German-english translations of other things that suck worse, but I don't think this can possibly fit into "translated well". I mailed them a few corrections for the middle translation, BTW ;) I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Ha! We've caught you--proofreaders don't have souls. (At least, I didn't when I was a proofer.) best, Lindsay (25 years ago, 10-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No response so far.. (...) Hmmmm. I suppose you're right. That must be why I disagree with Larry. You know what's really sad? I think I'd be better proofreading english than Dutch. Jasper (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Your job options would certainly be better--Lord knows there's a lot more call for proofreaders for English than proofreaders for Dutch, because a *much* larger percentage of the relatively small number of Dutch-speakers are truly fluent in (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yah. Though if you want people who can write Dutch, go to the Flemings. The Great National Dictation Contest has been won, out of 10 years it's been running yearly, 8 or 9 times by a Belgian. (...) Jumbled seems to have a bit of a different (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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