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Re: Monday Morning Diversion
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Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:55:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> This is one of those goofy movies that if you take it seriously at all you'll
> just hate it. It's one of those bad movies that I enjoy. I find Mar Attacks
> hilarious, but most other people just absolutely despise it. I suppose you
> had to be a kid in the 60's and collected the cards...
I actually liked Mars Attacks, but I thought T5E tried to take itself too
seriously, while at the same time trying to be light-hearted...with a deep
philosophical message. It's theme is just to muddied and contradictory for me.
> Wing Commander may have been a landmark game at the time,
At what time? When the original game was released or when the movie was
released and the Star Wars flight sims had pretty much stolen WC's thunder?
> but this came on TV and I tried to prop my eyes open, but alas, I ended up
> drowning out the soundtrack with my snores, so I can only call the part I
> watched as boring.
There were barely any people in the theatre with us when we watched it on
opening night, and I probably would have MST3Ked it, but another group of my
friends showed up independantly of the group I was with, sat in the next row up
from us, and were actually there to watch the movie (and one of them had already
been pretty miffed at my constant ridiculing of the original Robotech series
when a group of us endured it during either fall or winter break at college).
> Dungeons and Dragons did the same.
Never watched that one...or He-Man, for that matter. Kinda wanted to at the
time (in both cases), but I have zero regret now for having missed them. Same
with Titanic, which my ex and I missed out on due to me being drafted to ferry
two carloads of dorm residents (they sold out between the two trips).
> The only one worth watching is II, maybe IV.
What? No VI? For the fact that I'm not a big fan of TOS, that's by far my
favorite Trek movie. Maybe it's because my hair feels something of a kinship
with the ridge-headed Klingons...
> Spiderman and Spiderman II are the new yardsticks now. But certainly the
> current trend for comic book characters goes to Burton's Batman. It was a
> step towards a darker and more complex character than the traditional Good
> Guy in Bright Tights (->tIGHt<- tights!).
They may be the yardsticks that Hollywood measures them by, but Batman seems to
always pop up first whenever movie critics start talking about them.
> Hayden was just truly awful. Terrible. Miscast. Bad actor. Bad direction.
> Stupid writing. A combination of each and every one of those things. It
> needed a stronger actor to rescue the part.
I guess maybe it's a matter of seeing the SW series for what it truly is, which
is a throw-back to the old serial sci-fi movies that Lucas grew up on. It's not
meant to be the sort of series that captures the Best Picture Oscar every year
running. The original trilogy isn't the most popular movie series because it
has stellar production quality, but because they tapped into a level of
imaginative entertainment that no other contemporary movies had bothered to
touch on. It's like the success of the Beatles. They're the benchmark of rock
music, though one could debate until the end of time as to whether they are/were
actually the best rock group to set foot on stage.
> I'm a little confused by the above: you complain about a "dearth" (small
> amount) of middle age guys complaining, but seem to be sneering at them,
> which would make a lot more sense if you had said a "plethora" or some other
> fancy word for "a lot".
Whoops, you're right. I hear myself speaking in my mind when I type, and I hate
the way I imagine myself saying "plethora" (oddly, though, I don't mind saying
it out loud), so I tend to avoid typing it (ironically, I did briefly consider
using it this time, but again decided not to). I have no idea where or when I
picked up the idea that dearth=plethora, but I don't remember ever using it
before. It just sorta popped into my mind as I was typing.
> And guys who are middle-aged now didn't have smurfs when they were young
> (they were probably in high school or college at the time).
I suppose that depends on what you consider to be middle-aged. The average
lifespan is still in the upper 70's, I believe (at least in the US), so the
middle third of a person's theoretical lifespan would start sometime in the
mid-20's and end shortly after hitting 50. Young middle-aged people (like
myself) were young kids when the Smurfs ruled the airwaves. We're the same
group of people who literally grew up on Star Wars.
> Clearly they watched a different release than the public did. :-)
I was talking about the original trilogy, not the prequel trilogy (I'm not aware
of any stand-alone behind-the-scenes videos for the prequels, though I own one
for the OT and one just for ANH). Is there any particular portion of the OT
dialogue that you felt "didn't work"?
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| (...) And after puzzling out that you meant The 5th Element...there was a deep philosphical message? (rhetorical alert) :-) (...) Pardon me, poor choice of words. "...landmark game in its time" is what I meant to say. Wing Commander the game was (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
| | | Wing Commander (Re: Monday Morning Diversion)
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| (...) Actually, I'm of the mind that WC is a real classic. It came out about the early 90's and it *was* a landmark. Graphics, sound, and most important: Plot. The missions you flew had a success or fail tree, so if you kept winning you drove the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| (...) This is one of those goofy movies that if you take it seriously at all you'll just hate it. It's one of those bad movies that I enjoy. I find Mar Attacks hilarious, but most other people just absolutely despise it. I suppose you had to be a (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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