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Re: Who oversees the rec.toys.LEGO newsgroup?
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Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:21:51 GMT
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James Wilson wrote:

minutes and re-compose your message;  and 2) a deeper-seated difficulty with
the English language.  There are countless more ways to insult someone, to
flame someone, to denigrate someone, than to resort to the nuclear f-bomb.  If
you're really that upset over what someone has said, shouldn't you choose your
words precisely, so your reader knows exactly how upset you are?

Wait.  The first part of your note sounded like it was about calm
civility.  How is it more civil to "insult, flame, or denigrate" someone
just because the F-bomb isn't used?

So is it about being decent to one another in this forum and trying to
let the internet boost us above being what we were without it or is it
about sinking beneath where we were without but, but in a precise (and
probably clever) way?

I think bans on profanity are ridiculous.  I intend to comply with the
rules here because I value this place.  I might even think that this
place is better in part because of those rules.  But I think that people
who are afraid of their children being corrupted by hearing certain
words are missing the boat.

Words (and language) are this incredibly cool idea that we came up with
that enables us to do a whole lot of stuff.  Words are beautiful.  They
are not something to be afraid of.  None of them.

The "F-bomb" is in my vocabulary, yet I choose to use it very little.
It entered my vocabulary when I was two or three.  My parents cursed
enough that they sounded low class to the me that I am now.  I did too,
as a kid.  And then I grew up.  I was alowed to make my own decisions,
to think for myself, and to read whatever I wanted.  My parents made
mistakes, but this wasn't one of them.

(On a side note, I moved from the Missouri to New Jersey at the end of
last summer and I've noticed that profanity is much more common here.
Is this an isolated observance, or can others coroborate this?  People
at work will just use the 'F-bomb' casually and repeatedly while on the
phone and stuff.  A couple of men in our lounge were discussing where to
find prostitutes in NYC when I walked in to get a coke out of the
machine.  They didn't stop, pause, change the topic, or anything.  It
blew my mind mostly that it was just no big deal to be openly discussing
such subjects at work.)

Chris



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Who oversees the rec.toys.LEGO newsgroup?
 
(...) HaH? You got a PROBLEM wid' dat? You got a freekin' PROBLEM? I noticed this as well, coming from MI (rather than MO) to NJ. I occasionally get looked at funny when I say "excuse me?" when they use profanity freely (but the elderly have (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Who oversees the rec.toys.LEGO newsgroup?
 
(...) My original point, which I think you have partially and inadvertently backed up, is that kids lack the maturity to use profanity wisely. Armed with the "F- bomb" as it is so tactfully put, a kid is just as likely to waltz up to the Queen and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Who oversees the rec.toys.LEGO newsgroup?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Peter Callaway writes: <snip> (...) I think this is the heart of the "profanity in newsgroups" debate. I can fully understand profanity in the heat of the moment, in a spoken conversation. It is extremely easy to let a (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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