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Re: Who oversees the rec.toys.LEGO newsgroup?
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Date: 
Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:01:39 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> In lugnet.general, Tony Kilaras writes:
> > 
> > Todd Lehman wrote in message ...
> > > In lugnet.general, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > > > [...]
> > > > I don't use profanity here on Lugnet largely because Todd insists on it • and
> > > > not because I agree with this policy -- which I don't, I think its silly.
> > > 
> > > It's hardly silly at all, actually...  It may be unfortunate for some,
> > > perhaps, but it's a completely sound logical decision nonetheless.  And
> > > it actually has nothing whatsoever to do with personal preferences[1] or
> > > worrying whether kids[2] are reading.
> > > 
> > > The reason is simple:  The excessive gutter language and flamewars in RTL • is
> > > what drove many good people away (in frustration, horror, disbelief, etc.)
> > > during 1994-1998.  I could name at least ten who specifically left at • various
> > > times as a result of uncivilities amplified by unnecessary obsceneties.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ok, name them.
> 
> Well I really don't think this post needs a reply and I have instituted my own
> rule about not posting flames in response to ignorant posts, so I won't but
> this seems as good a place as any for me to post about how I feel on the
> matter.
> 
> 1.  As has been stated previously this is Todd's place.  He pays for it.  He
> manages it.  It is his, not ours.  If I could I would thank Todd every day for
> creating LUGNET because without it I would not have met so many very nice
> people that share a love for something we have a passion for.
> 
> 2.  I agree with Todd in that we all use off-color language occasionally and
> any Kid that has not been shut in a closet their entire life has heard just
> about anything any adult has.  (Although they may lack the understanding of • the
> true meanings of those words).  So this is more a case of just being civil • with
> each other.  We all share something in common that makes us happy and there is
> no need for incivility among us.  I realise that .debates come up that bring
> out our differances and there are other subjects that we all have differing
> opinions on but even then we can discuss our feelings in a civil manner.
> 
> 3.  It is my personal opinion (disagree with it if you will) that posting to
> any newsgroup is differant then every day conversation.  When you are writing
> something it takes more thought that when you are participating in a
> conversation.  You have time to think about what you are writing and in my
> opinion if you can not express yourself without the use of off-color or
> offensive language then you need to figure it out.  It is not difficult.
> Actually it is quite easy and if you can't handle it maybe this is not the
> place for you.
> 
> 4.  Name calling, again in my opinion, is many times worse than any off-color
> language that may occasionally get out.  There is absolutely no place for it
> and nothing good ever comes from it.  I personally think Todd has been more
> than generous in this area.  If this were my place I think my policy when it
> came to name calling would be a lot more strict than what Todd's is.
> 
> 5.  I personally do not read rec.toys.lego for many of the reasons previously
> stated in this thread along with the fact that I am a "compartmentalization
> geek" and while I try and read most posts I tend read only those posts in a • few
> groups because that is what interests me.
> 
> 6.  I have also stopped or mostly stopped reading posts when they are written
> by certain people only because I personally don't like their attitude.  That • is
> my choice and I would not be supprised if others did the same.  My point being
> is that I could do the same on rec.toys.lego but if I did I would have to sift
> through more messages than I care to in order to find one that interests me • and
> is writen by someone I respect.
> 
> 
> Really it all comes down to respect.  Whether it is respect for Todd and his
> rules or respect for someone elses opinion we all deserve it.  For me respect
> is something you lose not something you have to gain.  I will respect anyone
> and their views until they do something to lose that respect.  This may be
> because I am an optimist or because I am to trusting but that is how I feel.
> 
> 
> Eric Kingsley
> 
> The New England LEGO Users Group
> http://www.nelug.org/


Ditto!

James Wilson



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  Re: Who oversees the rec.toys.LEGO newsgroup?
 
(...) Well I really don't think this post needs a reply and I have instituted my own rule about not posting flames in response to ignorant posts, so I won't but this seems as good a place as any for me to post about how I feel on the matter. 1. As (...) (27 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.general)

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