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Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 5 May 2005 20:10:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Maybe, if it weren’t for that whole pesky “faith” thing...
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But you can’t just play in your little room of Science and have no opinions
about concrete things that Science cannot address. I am speaking about
Creation.
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You lost me there. What’s a concrete thing that science can’t address?
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But that construction breaks from the “absolute” as soon as human faith
comes into it. An actual revelation for you is just hearsay for me, so
that’s where “absolute” falls apart.
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We have been given intellects, and some revelation along the way. Heck, we
may even be hardwired to God via our consciences.
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Hmm? Hardwired how? Hardwired to believe in him (in spite of free will?) Or
hardwired to want to believe in him? Not me.
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We can achieve enlightenment if we have God as our source of inspiration
(what do you supposed fueled the Renaissance in the first place?)
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Approximately one zillion things fueled the Renaissance, which culminated with
the Enlightenment so thoroughly despised by the Right.
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Lacking a true, transcendent, and verifiable absolute, we’re only left with
consensus, and for that we need no higher power.
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But then we are like the blind leading the blind; trying to navigate in a
storm at sea, without a compass. Truth rings free, and respectful, honest,
and humble people should recognize it.
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Well, that’s witnessing, of course. It’s also mildly misanthropic, a la “Life
is a vale of tears” (so don’t bother trying to understand it).
No, thanks. If there is an absolute truth, we have no way to ascertain it short
of direct, personal revelation for each of us individually. Short of that,
we’re just as well off to assume that it doesn’t exist, since we can’t know it
anyway.
Having gotten past that, we realize again that we’re all in the same boat, so
let’s try to make it pleasant for as many people as possible.
Dave!
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| (...) "I am speaking about Creation." (...) I was referring to our conscience. The knowledge deep down of right and wrong. (...) I'm citing a book whose title eludes me. I'll see if I can find it. In the mean time, I'll accept merely 1 million out (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) But you can't just play in your little room of Science and have no opinions about concrete things that Science cannot address. I am speaking about Creation. (...) We have been given intellects, and some revelation along the way. Heck, we may (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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