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Re: Ya wanna talk about legislating morality?
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Thu, 5 May 2005 18:02:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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I hope the ‘better minds’ will prevail in Texas, where legislation is being
passed in which cheerleaders aren’t allowed to ‘shake their booty’
anymore--
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/05/05/cheerleaders.law.reut/index.html
In both these issues--the banning of books and the cheerleader thing the
idea--“we’re not sure what constitutes ‘over the line’” was implied.
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Everyone wants freedom, but no one is willing to take responsibility for
their actions, and so the GP is forced to control irresponsible people’s
behavior through their representatives, their elected government officials.
We live in a free society, but that doesn’t mean we are free to do whatever
the hell we want.
JOHN
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More to the point is the guys doing the legislation want to lock things down
but doin’t know where that line is--“banning ‘some’ Shakespeare”--which
parts? Banning some cheerleader moves--which moves.
So it’s not that people aren’t accepting personal responsibility (and that’s
a good topic for another time), it’s that now we’re getting legisiation on
the books where there’s no definitive ‘here’s the line’, thus leaving things
up to interpretation, and pretty soon we’ll be back to the ‘50’s where girls
skirts have to touch the floors if they’re on their knees ‘cause that’s how
the VP interpreted the law.
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But don’t you see-- there is no definitive line! The line is where ever the
sensibilities of a society is at any given point in time. Right now the current
sensibilities of our society are being offended by certain individuals and
society is exerting its right (or as “might” as it was put by Dave!) to curtail
it. I see nothing wrong with this. There is a culture war going on. I
honestly think that the envelope-pushing, values-distaining Left will lead us to
anarchy.
JOHN
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Here’s something--libertarians get in on this--less gov’t intervention--stop
legislating morality!
Your idea of personal responsibility could be different than mine, so where
does that get us?
Dave K
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) To be honest, the culture war has been going on since before the first human saw another human from outside his family. The culture war continues to this day and will continue until we're all assimilated: it's called society. I accept that (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) and I honestly think that the envelope-pushing, rights-disdaining Religious Right will lead us to a theocratic dictatorship. Me, I'll take anarchy over that any day. ... but then, I'm a minarchist after all.. (...) Um, ya??? What was it you (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) More to the point is the guys doing the legislation want to lock things down but doin't know where that line is--"banning 'some' Shakespeare"--which parts? Banning some cheerleader moves--which moves. So it's not that people aren't accepting (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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