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Re: To change the tune...
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Fri, 6 Feb 2004 01:24:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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Thats just you propping up a straw man.
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Oh come on, John. You HAVE to admit the administration has been backpedaling
from their previous claims, even if Dave hasnt provided specific cites from
the various speeches. I mean, who has time?
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The reason I asked is because I know for a fact that nobody ever claimed such.
It was blown intelligence and everybody bought it (why wouldnt they? SH, the
complete idiot, wanted everyone to believe he had them. Bet he never thought
wed actually come after him! Strike two and youre out!)
The Kerry camp should be pretty quiet-- he voted to go into Iraq, so even he
must have bought it as well....
As far as the Bush administration goes; yeah, they have egg on their face, but
so does everyone else. Most who opposed the war acknowledged that SH had WMDs
but mostly believed that Bush wanted Iraqi oil and contracts for Halliburton.
Nobody got this one right. The good news is that we have a splendid opportunity
to assist a great nation become democratic and free. God knows what disasterous
future we averted by deposing SH-- we can only confront evil when we see it and
act accordingly. If nothing else, the example of SH is a beacon of warning to
current tin-pot dictators around the world who respect nothing but power-- the
stakes are high and we arent just whistlin Dixie...
JOHN
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| (...) The rest of your fine post is fatally weakened by the above sentence. Troll through some Bush speeches and you'll find the claims, in plain daylight. Heck, take a look at the Powell speech to the UN just prior, they're there. (to find that (...) (20 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) "The Iraqi regime ... possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- George W. Bush "We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, (...) (20 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Oh come on, John. You HAVE to admit the administration has been backpedaling from their previous claims, even if Dave hasn't provided specific cites from the various speeches. I mean, who has time? (20 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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