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Re: WMD, again...
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:38:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
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> > > > Maybe this analogy would work: I believe in (ie, accept the existence of)
> > > > Christianity, but I don't follow it.
> >
> > > I think you are confusing atheism, which is to not believe in any god or
> > > spiritual entity like gogs, with agnostism. Agnostic people just don't care
> > > for religion, but they may believe or not that a God exists. As for you,
> > > who believes in Christian religion but doesn't follow it, I think you are a
> > > believer, just not a practicing believer.
> >
> > Boy oh boy are you off the mark.
> >
> > John, would you care to field this one for me? 8^)
> >
> > Dave!
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> Do you have a dictionnary? Search for atheism. You'll see i'm right.
> Here, I'll search for you :
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> a·the·ism
> (click to hear the word) (th-zm)
> n.
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> Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
> The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
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> Here is for...
> ag·nos·tic
> (click to hear the word) (g-nstk)
> n.
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> One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
> One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true
> atheism.
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> I'm totally on the spot. Care to tell me how the dictionnary is wrong and
> you right?
I'll try. I think what was being said by Mr. Schuler(1) is as follows:
He acknowledges that christians exist and that they do something called
worship. He acknowledges that they hold beliefs. They just don't happen to
be HIS beliefs. In other words he believes in (the existance of)
christianity, without he himself being christian.
By analogy: I know that there are people that believe in the tooth fairy. I
know that they carry out certain rituals related to their belief. I,
however, don't believe that the tooth fairy actually exists.
So I believe in the "tooth fairy cult" (I've seen manifestations of it, my
kids used to leave their teeth under their pillows... I know the cult
exists) but not the tooth fairy.
Helps?
1 - I tried several constructions but that sentence just did not admit to
ending with Dave!
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| (...) Do you have a dictionnary? Search for atheism. You'll see i'm right. Here, I'll search for you : a·the·ism (click to hear the word) (th-zm) n. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. The doctrine that there is no God or gods. (...) (21 years ago, 22-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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