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Re: ...so much for winning hearts and minds. [was Re: Outrageous ...]
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Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:33:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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can't comment on 'friendly fire'--Americans killed Canadians in same fashion
in war games earlier...
but this one--
> ...and that they are not follwing orders:
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> A Gruesome Scene on Highway 9
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61229-2003Mar31.html
> ==+==
> "Fire a warning shot," he ordered as the vehicle kept coming. Then, with
> increasing urgency, he told the platoon to shoot a 7.62mm machine-gun round
> into its radiator. "Stop [messing] around!" Johnson yelled into the company
> radio network when he still saw no action being taken. Finally, he shouted at
> the top of his voice, "Stop him, Red 1, stop him!"
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> That order was immediately followed by the loud reports of 25mm cannon fire
> from one or more of the platoon's Bradleys. About half a dozen shots were heard
> in all.
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> ...
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> Fifteen Iraqi civilians were packed inside the Toyota... Ten of them, including
> five children who appeared to be under 5 years old, were killed on the spot
> when the high-explosive rounds slammed into their target... Of the five others,
> one man was so severely injured that medics said he was not expected to live.
> ==+==
Was watching CNN all last night and this was the topic of concern--
When Iraqi soldiers start driving vehicles into allied camps and blowing up,
a la 'suicide bombers', and Iraqi soldiers start waving white flags as if to
surrender and then start shooting when the allies get close, or when Iraqi
soldiers dressed as civilians get inside allied camps and start some carnage...
Quite frankly I don't blame the allies at all. Not one bit.
The truck wasn't stopping. It was ordered to do so in all languages that
could have been understood, and other less fatal measures were taken, and
the tuck kept on coming.
I probably would have done exactly the same.
War is hell--we shouldn't be in it up to our necks like we are. But it's
war and 'they' are not "playing by the rules". I know that there are no
rules in war, but if they start playing dirty, it's only their citizens that
will suffer.
Get SH. Get him, either alive or dead. Just get him.
> ...so much for winning "hearts and minds".
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> Should William Branigin be sacked?
Dunno.
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> Scott A
Dave K
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| (...) I don't blame the *allies* either. UK armed forces have been openly criticising "heavy handed" practices used by the US ground troops. Have a gander at this: British military critical of US troops' heavy-handed style with civilians (URL) (...) (21 years ago, 2-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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