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Re: Outrageous Iraqi Geneva Convention Violation
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Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:51:11 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Don't drag the gun debate into this or you'll get responses like the
> following, which will derail the thread.
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
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> > What good are ideals if we throw them away because they're too inconvenient?
> > My not wanting a gun in my house is *my* ideal. "Oh, but I'll run out and
> > git a gun if I live in a bad neighbourhood!" Well, no, because then, imho,
> > I will be *contributing* to the reason why the neighbourhood is bad.
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> No, actually, assuming you're a law abiding citizen otherwise, with a
> healthy respect for the rights of others, and you've been suitably trained
> in the use of your new gun, you'll be *contributing* to making the
> neighborhood *better*.
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> Thanks for playing.
How's that again?? Not to go 'round and round with you about the specific
*gun* issue, 'cause both you and I are unmoveable on that one, and we both
know it...
If one of *my* ideals is that guns are bad, but I go get a gun because now
my 'hood's bad, I'm breaking my ideals. I do believe that adaptation to
situations is a good thing, but if you have convictions, you shouldn't go
breaking them 'cause life threw a little tangent your way. I believe that
privately owned guns contribute to the degradation of society. I believe
that we're now in the 21st century, where 'the pen is mightier than the
sword'--that the spoken word is far more powerful than bullets. I believe
that there are only specific organizations that should have access to guns,
such as law enforcement officers and the military. This is what I believe.
I further believe that guns get into criminal's hands via robberies of
houses and stores that have guns--If I don't have a gun in my house, there
is *no* chance of a gun getting into a criminals hands via me.
It's called 'breaking covenant' with oneself. To me, it doesn't matter if
someone has a cache of weapons that would make Branch Davidian blush--as for
me and my house, we will have none of it.
Thank you for playing... come again.
Dave K
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| (...) Let me try it from another tack. You may be contributing to breaking your ideals, yes, and I don't dispute that, but that's it. Your statement above only holds if it is necessarily true that law abiding citizens (you are law abiding) having (...) (21 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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