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  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote: -snip- "....timba, his arms wide...." (18 years ago, 3-Sep-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
(...) Just when I thought the pompous, ignorant, self-centered, egotistical, simian creature otherwise known as Eric Sophie couldn't get any weirder he trumps himself. Congratulations! Tim (18 years ago, 3-Sep-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess wrote: -snip- "....shaka, when the walls fell...." (18 years ago, 2-Sep-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
(...) Posting it to a public forum makes it everyone's business. -Duane (18 years ago, 1-Sep-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
(...) . I think Buzz Lightyear said it best. (URL) (18 years ago, 1-Sep-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
Rob, Rob Rob Rob. This has nothing to do with Brickshelf and Avatars. If I don't like Jeff, that is my buisness. It was not meant for you or anyone else. He takes a chance responding to my post. Same with Tim or other people that have negative (...) (18 years ago, 31-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
(...) Eric, When I first joined LUGNET, your work impressed me. The door to communicating with you opened up when you had a technical problem to solve for showcasing Jama and I had the ability to assist. Since the problem was due to physical damage (...) (18 years ago, 31-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) ! 
 
  That reminds me of deja vu
 
From WildNet Africa - The Virtual Rhino Park (URL) the dominant male scent marks the territory, spraying his urine along boundaries and paths, and scattering his dung after defecating at middens. Subordinate males bellow and shriek loudly when (...) (18 years ago, 25-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
(...) Duane, I really think the same information content could have been written without all the vitriol you showed. Maybe you should read your own post a couple of times before pushing 'send'? (18 years ago, 25-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Eric's and Jeff's chip was (Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar)
 
In lugnet.admin.general, Duane Hess wrote: Nevermind. I can't post any free thought without having my old enemies pick on me. If one of them does? I tell them to bugger off. Oh and I am so wrong. Just like you. Shut down for free thought. Cry my a (...) (18 years ago, 25-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  [involves Eric Sophie] Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar
 
(...) Who are you to criticise anyone about changing topics/groups/whatever? Rob at least put his post in the right place which is more than you ever manage. Yet another example of the Eric Sophie(tm) hypocrisy in action I guess. It is true he (...) (18 years ago, 25-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar
 
Nice Rob, nice. What does any of that have to do with Avatars and Brickshelf? (18 years ago, 25-Aug-06, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar
 
(...) And people say you are an unreasonable <insert JLUG appropriate language here/> (...) Boohoo!!! (...) All I can think of is the sad song "So Long Old Friend", you know the one that was in Here comes Garfield ((URL) years ago when Odie was (...) (18 years ago, 24-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar
 
(...) Point taken. (...) You had the nerve to post an image containing an obscene caption with my picture, you can take a flying leap. Goodbye. Eric Sophie (18 years ago, 23-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ease up on marking folders Avatar
 
(...) Eric, I would be happy if you take these bitter, non-constructive replies to o-t.debate. Goodbye, Jude Beaudin Everyone else, Don't forget to checkout the game I created last spring. (URL) .o-t.debate (18 years ago, 23-Aug-06, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Worst of the worst
 
(...) Hi Elroy, I hope that my comment didn't come out harsher than it was intended. I'm pretty passionate about free speech and probably come across ruder than I intend to. (...) I agree with this. To be honest I really regret adding that comment. (...) (18 years ago, 15-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Worst of the worst
 
(...) My apologies. It read just like something Eric would write. (...) Do you use statements like "You repeat your childishness to no effect." in your professional capacity? I certainly hope not since that is one of the least professional responses (...) (18 years ago, 12-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Worst of the worst
 
--SNIP-- Well I wasn't going to respond but I think I just have to. I feel caught between a rock and a hard place here. On the one hand I realise that responding will make me look bad but on the other hand I know that remaining silent will allow you (...) (18 years ago, 12-Aug-06, to lugnet.people.support, lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: One really pissed off Lego customer!
 
(...) The problem with Shipping costs is that they very rarely cover just shipping. Also included are the costs of packaging, warehousing, handling, etc. "Shipping Cost" really isn't an accurate description. There are a few issues with basing (...) (18 years ago, 8-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One really pissed off Lego customer!
 
(...) Hmm, here is the screen directly before you confirm your order. What more warning do you need? (URL) Sorry, but you seem to be flaming (or trolling) Lego. I'm gonna defend Lego. It would be flaming to call you an idiot, which I'm not gonna do. (...) (18 years ago, 8-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: One really pissed off Lego customer!
 
(...) Actually, Illinois looks wierd. Looks like it's variable sales tax depending on the district, which I had never heard of before. Chicago, for instance, looks like it has a 9% sales tax. And, if you calculate the sales tax *after* the shipping (...) (18 years ago, 8-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One really pissed off Lego customer!
 
(...) i totaly and comepletly agree!!!!! well said! ondrew (18 years ago, 8-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One really pissed off Lego customer!
 
--SNIP-- (...) --SNIP-- Moved to off-topic.debate Yes it's their business but of course you can get pissed at the way it is run. That's like saying you shouldn't get pissed at a shoddy product: it's the manufacturers business and they can run it how (...) (18 years ago, 7-Aug-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Kent Hovind -- Criminal Creationist
 
(...) I drove straight through from MN to Philly (24 hours total, including a 3 hour nap). I don't remember Cranberry-- perhaps I slept through it:-) JOHN (18 years ago, 19-Jul-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Kent Hovind -- Criminal Creationist
 
(...) He's a nut to end all nuts, that's for sure. And kind of a jerk besides, from all accounts. (...) Yeah, way to stand me up. I was waiting by the tollbooth outside of Cranberry, but did you stop? Of course not! Feh! (...) Well, it definitely (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jul-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Kent Hovind -- Criminal Creationist
 
(...) Well, I'm certainly not going to defend him. This is an example of what I'd call "far right". Coo-coo. BTW, I'm sorry that I was in the neighborhood (PA) and didn't stop in to say "hi" (but you may not have appreciated the time of day we hit (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jul-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Kent Hovind -- Criminal Creationist
 
Anyone who's endured this forum for long enough may remember a few discussions in which the name Dr. Kent Hovind has appeared. He's a famous Young-Earth Creationist who has famously posted a challenge to any "evolutionist" who can prove that (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jul-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament - The Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) I couldn't find reference to Bush using those words, but he has reportedly used (URL) "..hunt down and punish them.."> and (URL) them down..and bring them to justice..">. The only reference I can find to "destroying them" was by Brigadier (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jul-06, to lugnet.build.ancient, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Wow! Re: Let that be a lesson to you
 
(...) (URL) Way to beat the rap, Kenny Boy!> Dave! (18 years ago, 5-Jul-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Definitely China has a massive and booming middle class. the current generation of children are called the spoiled ones, because parents in the big cities (by law) are having only one child and giving them everything they didn't have while (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Now you are starting to sound like Dave! Dave! :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Uh... What? Dave! (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Times that one, two four, by six, add a good cigar or three, and hey you just described my upcoming weekend plans! Oops, wait you left out the fact that I will "tippercanoe" in the middle of "leach lake", and fire off a case-load of overpriced (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I'm with ya... (...) I'm with ya... (...) I'm still with ya... (...) Ya lost me. As a service to the clueless such as I, consulted the Wik: == Canadian variant In Canada, "toque" may also be a misspelling of tuque (IPA /tuk/), a knit woollen (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) We'll get our 2-4 of beer, some back bacon on the coleman, and enjoy the view whilst sitting on our muskoka chairs, all the while dreading the upcoming toque season... Dave K -hoser extra-ordinaire... (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Beauty. JOHN (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) You would, Dave! :-) (...) Okay, okay, I admit it-- I blame Canada. But not for the demise of TLG! I mostly blame them for my own great white northern accent! >:( (...) Why not? He's a kick-ass kind of guy, eh? Might be too young, however... (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I don't think so. There was PLENTY of screaming; it's just that the screaming didn't find a sympathetic ear amongst the US GP. (...) I don't think that they are "laughing". We proved that we aren't afraid to take action, even when the world (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: snip (...) snip (...) Take off! All of you are 'hoser-wannabe's' Dave K (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: snip (...) how'd the double-post happen? I think I clicked the post button once.... The post must've been so well written and eloquent that the server deemed to post it twice! :) Dave K (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I blame democrats and lefties too--they didn't stand up for what's right and let Dubya take all of America down the wrong path. They knew better yet, due to political expediency, kept their mouths shut and let Dubya and the administration sell (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I blame democrats and lefties too--they didn't stand up for what's right and let Dubya take all of America down the wrong path. They knew better yet, due to political expediency, kept their mouths shut and let Dubya and the administration sell (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I call that wiggling. We all know your feelings aboot our neighbor to the north, to say nothing of its hoser inhabitants, eh? And now you're trying to claim that you're not blaming them? For crying oot lood! (...) I would rather see Nick (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) For the record, and I think I speak for Patrick as well-- he nor I were "blaming Canada", but simply riffing on the song from the TV show South Park called "Blame Canada". My statement was a line from the song. My "I blame Bush" was a jab at (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Blaming Canada makes sense. Lego in divesting itself of the manufacture of lego elements is following the moves of its two competitors in "system" level elements. Best Lock has ceased manufacturing its semi compatible bricks and now is the (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) There's a difference: no one is forcing workers in China to go work for these factories. In fact, the hierarchy in China as far as desirable places to work: American company European company Japan/Korean company (a perceived step down to this (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) They're not even a real country anyway. JOHN (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I blame Canada, (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
Re: LEGO migrating production to Singapore (...) Thomas Main wrote: (...) I'd just like to toss in that Singapore is a first world country, not a third world country. It's more urbanized than Tokyo, a heck of a lot cleaner than New York (where I (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Yes the wages and costs would rise with time. The extra money generated in the meanwhile can be used for internal job creation and raising of standards. If the business costs become too high then the business can move to a new lower cost (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Fair enough - cost savings can be achieved. If all this new work resulted in standards of living increasing in the countries the jobs were farmed out to - wouldn't the wages then have to rise to compensate? Then what would be the long-term (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Actually, I am glad that they have work, but I would prefer it not processing raw materials for a foreign company so that people can have toys. There are other ways they could be productive -- farming, for instance. Or producing goods that (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
This recent article on Sweden seemed relevant, though Denmark is compared somewhat favorably, I still wonder about the jobs numbers. (URL) retained the world's highest taxes, generous social security systems and a heavily regulated labor market, (...) (18 years ago, 24-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Patterson wrote: <snip> (...) Slacker!-- wrecking it for the wrest of us:-) JOHN (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Presumably you also want to see BL stores go out of business, by placing (URL) huge bogus orders> with them? Or was that just some weird personal vengeance because I don't agree with your views on gun ownership or something???? Please climb (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) The bottom line is that TLG is a business, and they are doing whatever they feel necessary to remain in business. Some bad business decisions? Perhaps, but to blame TLG for not having perfect market vision is a little harsh. TLG is an old (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I'm sick to death of this equation of manufacturing in poor countries being eqivalent to slavery/evil/whatever. It is quite possible for a company to employ people at a good local income in a country where the cost of living is lower and still (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) The difference, of course, is that the facade of brand-purism would be torn down, and fans would finally have to determine whether they're purists because it's LEGO or because it's made in Enfield. There may be a legitimate issue of quality (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) I wouldn't call the comment stupid. I think it comes from a fan who feels let down and now questions his support of the company that made the decision that led to his disappontment. I feel let down too. I don't want to buy the Lego "brand" by (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
That is rather cold, however I have often thought of that since it costs me between $5,000 - $10,000 a year just to keep up with the new sets. Being OCD Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder) I have to get two of everything that comes out. Then find the new (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
(...) Don't forget--he had to arrange for Vince Foster's "suicide," too. Dave! (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Massive Layoffs At Lego (in Enfield, CT)
 
No it was Sadam, why do you think he is on trial. Or maybe Kennedy, he killed that woman by driving into a vat of yellow hot melted plastic. That is what took him so long to report it. Had to get all the yellow off of himself while holding a bottle (...) (18 years ago, 23-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) Ding! I think I see the problem. It's a mistake to frame this as an issue of whether any person's rights are or are not compromised by the presence of a religious invocation on US currency. Instead, the issue should be identified as the (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) I stopped purchasing Lego before 1978, and I *demand* to be able to submit a Joe Vig contest entry using my blank-faced and armless old minifigs. With a police hat, not the fancy brown male hair from 1979. I also see the need for an (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) And slave-owners, and people who unleashed biological warfare upon the indigenous population and ignored every treaty with them besides. Why don't we commemorate these cornerstones of our history as well? (...) Newdow may or may not be a jerk, (...) (18 years ago, 19-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) It is acknowledging the religious history of this country without necessarily endorsing it. We are a nation of religious people. So what? It's not forcing you to do anything or believe anything. If there is no force or coercion behind the (...) (18 years ago, 16-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) I would question your characterization of two of our governmental branches being under control of fundamentalists. They may be under conservative control, but that doesn't mean that they will kowtow to the fundamental right. I am not in favor (...) (18 years ago, 16-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) I really wish that when terms related to religion (esp. "god") are used, that the standard the courts used was not "oh, that term is secular" but "if a someone is claiming the term is religious and serves to establish religion that the (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
"Judge Frank Damrell of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California held in his opinion that "In God We Trust" is secular in nature and use, and its appearance on coins and currency does not show government coercion on behalf of (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) yo did say you missed the 'good ol' days'... :) I'm just fed up with sitting around whilst these bullies behind the pulpit hit us over the heads with what we should be doing (or shouldn't be doing) and saying they preach the word of 'the God (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: ***snip of quite a rant!*** (...) That reminds me of recent studies showing that so-called "abstinence pledges" or "virginity pledges" are often every bit the sham that one might expect. The majority (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) Hey Lenny, For myself, my faith in God has never been stronger. That said, my faith in anything 'religious' or 'church'ish, or 'biblical' has never been lower--I'm adamantly opposed to 'pushing' religiousity down everyone's throats. And when (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) I'm down with that, but here's the problem. The same current-day (and vocal, and generally unopposed in public) fundamentalists who complained about the so-called War on Christmas wouldn't see it that way, and since they control at least two (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) Although my faith in God has been waining lately, I like this justification of the phrase. The notion of higher law (or natural law) has been around for quite some time (and inspired many of the founding fathers). However, I'm pretty sure that (...) (18 years ago, 14-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) But your interesting angle only answers the question, because it is not the intention of Christians to turn the US into a theocracy, Dave! Look, this nation was founded by people who sought religious freedom, to be free to worship their God in (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) LMAO!!! Thanks for bringing those to my attention, Larry! They truly made my day - I haven't laughed so much for ages! That Richie guy is a riot!! I managed to find the Joe Vig entry myself though, and liked it so much I spotlighted it, so the (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) C'mon Larry, this is good..:-) Made me smile, and even giggle..more than once..:-) Selçuk (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) Dear Mr. Jr., (both you and Dear Sir Hoffman actually), you make it in such an unbearable fashion that, it is almost impossible not to want to take a shot... at both of you..:-) with my warmest embraces, Selçuk (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newdow in the News (again)
 
(...) Well, I guess I just wonder why Christians don't get upset at this widespread violation of the 2nd Commandment. I mean, if the phrase is "secular in nature and in use," then that's a pretty serious dilution of the Big Guy's name, isn't it? And (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Libertarians are silly, guns should be outlawed, and there is no God
 
(...) Well, I say bring'em back! True False False :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Newdow in the News (again)
 
Little rules I live by... #13 13. "If you can't even get the 9th circuit to go along with your (URL) kooky agenda>, then you are really kooky." Oh where is the cacaphony of criticism from the Creedless? :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Libertarians are silly, guns should be outlawed, and there is no God
 
(...) I miss those days. Just 10 minutes ago I was reading a blog-- (URL) was quite 'educated' about this Zarqawi guy. According to the blog, basically we killed a straw man--he really wasn't much of anything. And then I went and read this one about (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> . (...) Me! Me! Me!!! I want sarcasm!!!!!! If it was my contest, and only if it was my contest, I would have stated in 'da rulz' that Joe Vig has to be composed of such'n such colour of torso, (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
--SNIP-- (...) --SNIP-- Dear Janey, I have to take issue with the above statement. A yellow round one by one is one of these things [LDrawPart 3062B:14] whereas I'm sure you mean a yellow head [LDrawPart 3626B:14] which is an entirely different (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Libertarians are silly, guns should be outlawed, and there is no God
 
(...) My "good old days of Lugnet" metre was fit to burst (again) but this post has well and truly deflated it. Thanks. Rant averted. Tim (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Libertarians are silly, guns should be outlawed, and there is no God
 
I miss the good old days in ot.debate when we discussed real issues, and our opinions had wide-ranging impact well beyond the bounds of LUGNET. Why, my musings on the virtues of government subsidized medicine led directly to Canada's implementation (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Marc Nelson Jr. wrote: SNIP Marc, I will endeavor to be as simple as I can in my reply, I hope you will be able to read deeply into the answers, as short as they are. (...) Yes. (...) YES. (best 6 year old voice I can (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) The Seatop is a brig, as I specified in my post, not a ship. See (URL) for further details. Cheers Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) It's a joke, Larry. Or am I the only one that thinks this whole 'discussion' is hilariously absurd? Allister (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) Yes. There is a warm and embracing community here, or what's left of one, and it acted the way we all have seen it act in the past, warmly, as you describe above. The part you missed though, is that there is also a much less warm and embracing (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) ! 
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
Hey all, I'm confused as to the "debate" here. This seems a perfect example of community. Two community members sponsored a contest to encourage building and donated the prizes (including the first prize as a $50 set). Another community member was (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) While there is no need for debate for this particular example I don't think it is entirely unneccesary. The debate goes beyond the current example into the wider realm of contests, rules, strict interpretations, internet manners etc. Just (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) Hello, Paul. Thank you for your opinion. For the record, Nathan and I were in complete agreement prior to my reply to Linus. (...) We are very sorry to hear that. Your response seems to be a very personal attack on me, but that is your (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) It is always hard to get one's message and tone across in a written medium. I did not find Nelson's message inconsiderate, or perceived him as having an attitude - it was simply a direct and honest answer. As I stated earlier, in the end I am (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) My sentiments as well. I'm glad the rules are enforced, which ensures that this contest is more enjoyable in the end. There really is no need for a greater debate than that. (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) To defend Lenny (whose reply I found amusing) and also Nelson, who's being painted as some sort of bad guy for enforcing the rules of his contest. Why would you want to take a shot at me? (...) That's why I said "like". It was an example. (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) Did you post this message just to defend Lenny, or because you wanted to take a shot at Chris? (And before you ask: Yes, I am posting this because I want to take a shot at you.) (...) Why? It seems John's already posting the mandated head. (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) Did you post this message because you are "saddened", or because you wanted to take a shot at Lenny? If you don't like the contest sponsors' ruling, then do something helpful, like John Neal did. Or maybe sponsor your own contest - one without (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 2nd Joe Vig contest entry - How Joe learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
 
(...) (Lone-Clap, Clap, Clap) Lets hear it for the great orator; Lenny. With sympathy like that, who needs enemies? I tried to succinctly explain that I was stunned by a decision that was made, for what appeared to be, valid reasons. I said “I was (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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