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(...) I bet that caused you physical pain to admit that, Dave! :-) You know, I have no problem with evolution being taught as a theory (not fact) in school, as long as the issue is handled honestly: Evolution is a theory, filled with questions and (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Activist Judges (was Re: Woo-hoo! Dover gets it right!)
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(...) (URL) Here's> the latest. Just who appointed this shameless activist Judge John Jones (not to be confused with the Martian Manhunter) who sees fit to subvert the will of the people and to legislate from the bench? Why, none other than our (...) (19 years ago, 21-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm just slinging smack, little girl. Just slinging smack. You don't like it, don't play the game. Soren (19 years ago, 19-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Stop the pair of you or I'll bang your 'eds together! Blimey.. Back to the bricks please... Eric - you got any ideas on what you might do for toe coverings then? Danny (...) -- Danny Staple MBCS OrionRobots (URL) contact details available through (...) (19 years ago, 24-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) -snip- (...) Whateva... (...) e (19 years ago, 23-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And (URL) this guy> was executed, so the point is served again. Dave! (19 years ago, 21-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree that the argument is not logically complete, but it is still not an example of the fallacy. The fallacy applies when it is used to link activities which were not a major part of the 'evil' Nazi activities to 'evil'. In this case he is (...) (19 years ago, 20-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) However, the quote given doesn't logically link up. He mentions something historical about Hitler, but doesn't link it to his argument. Further, his argument is made without using the Hitler reference - his only note is that we need to (...) (19 years ago, 20-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Except that the argument there is not an example of the fallacy. He is comparing right-wing organisations who propose the banning of gay groups to a rather famous right-wing organisation which banned gay groups which is a perfectly valid (...) (19 years ago, 20-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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First of all, the article: (URL) and now, to put it into some perspective: (URL) Perspective> -Avery (19 years ago, 20-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Even if folks think the Italian thingie is a bit thin, there's still no doubt the US used chemical weapons in Iraq ((URL) this with the sad image of senior administration officials arguing with the senate that the US should be allowed to (...) (19 years ago, 17-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Woo-hoo! Dover gets it right!
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It's the END of the WORLD! Ghod's Dee-VINE Re-tri-BUE-shun is coming, Sinners! Those that bee-LEAVE in E-vo-LU-shun will be SHUNNED! SCI-ence is a SIN! You WILLLLLL be PUNISHED if you can ADD too-plus-to! -Pat Robertson (Well, okay, there was some (...) (19 years ago, 11-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I especially enjoyed the comment from Kansas BoE member John Bacon, about their new standard: "It gets rid of a lot of dogma that's being taught in the classroom today." (from AP story as posted on LiveScience at (URL)). <insert pithy comment, (...) (19 years ago, 10-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm pleased to see that some spark of hope (URL) persists> in Pennsylvania. Regardless of its apologists, Creationism is not science and must never be included in a science curriculum, except perhaps as an example of politically well-connected (...) (19 years ago, 10-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think you have the wrong US administration in place if you're looking for any sense of justice. Or ethics Or any type of moral behaviour. But I could be wrong. Dave K (19 years ago, 8-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Now that it's (URL) clear> that the US used chemical incendiary weapons during the abominable siege of Fallujah, is it possible that anyone in this administration, or at any level of military command, will be held accountable? I mean, if the threat (...) (19 years ago, 8-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You know, I too believe that everything happens for a reason, that everything is an element of God's plan. But, I cannot even by the furthest stretch of the imagination see how they came up with that. I guess when a person is filled with hate, (...) (19 years ago, 5-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What a touching and personal moment, and how sad. LEGO as a symbol of childhood (and, by extension, of innocence) becomes all the more poignant when discussed in context of war. Regardless of one's views on the war in Iraq, the loss of a (...) (19 years ago, 3-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hey all, I just followed a link from the new (URL) ILENN - International LEGO Enthusiasts News Network> to (URL) this article> about the funeral services for a soldier killed in Iraq. This was linked on ILENN because in remembering his son, the (...) (19 years ago, 3-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hehehe! I never thought of the inverted club looking like a butter churn! Actually, I wanted him to be holding the club (raised) in his hand, but it blocked too much of his face, and just didn't look good... Mmmm... Ogre Butter... :) "Big (...) (19 years ago, 1-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Puh-Leeze.... he killed whatever that thing is on the ground and made butter our of it. Its the ogre way. Told. (19 years ago, 1-Nov-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's a self-portrait, so he has no one to blame but himself. (...) We are getting somewhere at last. :-) (...) Followed by immediate regression. Since you admit that you are biased, how do the claims you are making have any validity? Not to (...) (19 years ago, 8-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Heston should keep his mouth shut, then? (...) $40,000,000 to discover a non-crime seems a bit excessive. Other than such a criminal waste of money, I must admit I'm with you in saying I couldn't care less (the only time I care is when some (...) (19 years ago, 8-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Appropriate? Don't know if I use that word. Listen, most of the news churned out by the media is pure pulp. Think Hollywood. I couldn't care less about a star's private life; in fact, the less I know about it, the better for them, because I (...) (19 years ago, 7-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, something just occurred to me. With your above statement in mind, would you say that it is appropriate or inappropriate to have a citizen's private extramarital affair dragged through the media for months on end? Just curious... As (...) (19 years ago, 7-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Because he is neither the idiot nor the racist he's painted to be. (...) Fair enough. (...) Well, yes, because I know of him and know his politics, and so I know that the charges against him are baseless. As far as "defending Bennett to get at (...) (19 years ago, 7-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: s to say it. (...) I doubt it. He chose a racist example to make his point. (...) He didn't he have an inkling? Okay, he is an idiot then. Racist, idiot: I don't see why you would bother to defend either. (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) -snippity snip snip- (...) This is the part that is making everyone upset. Bennett is saying that blacks are a large source of crime, and is linking "criminality" to "blackness." He IS using reducio ad absurdum, but he is using it on the issue (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Bush, in a high-profile address on Thursday, said the global fight against terrorism must continue in Iraq because it is where terrorists are centering their war on humanity. "We're facing a radical ideology with an unalterable objective, to (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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(...) They won't say it because it is patently absurd, just as Bennett was arguing reductio ad absurdum. (...) ???!! I'm sleighed, -->Bruce<-- (...) Come on! You seriously can't think that Bennett had any inkling that this action was anything but (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes but in the context of this argument it is irrelevant whether or not the implicit support also applies to other things, in a debate on abortion it is the stance on abortion that is most important. That said, I somewhat agree with bringing (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh? I didn't think that was what was desired. I could believe that there are some out there who would be in favor of it, but I think in general, they're talking abortions within the first few months of pregnancy. Correct me if I'm wrong, of (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Prior to any late-term abortion legislation restricting it (not doubt opposed by NARAL), yes, in theory. (...) Yes. I'm not in the "every sperm is sacred" camp;-) (...) But they want the right to do it if they choose. (...) The right to choose (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps I am, now that you mention it. But then I would still phrase it this way: NARAL supports (def 7b at (URL) YourDictionary.com>) the right of reproductive choice. As a result, NARAL supports the right to have an abortion if one so (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And LEGO won't say it. Why? They would find it morally reprehenisble. Just like they are not going to say that if all black babies were aborted and LEGO wouldn't have to make non-yellow minifigs. Maybe that would be true, but they wouldn't be (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Really? Is that because you have a moral-like sense towards them that you wouldn't deem "moral" or "ethical", or that you don't have such a sense for them? If the latter, I'd have to ask you whether it was moral to go around slaughtering mice, (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No problem. (...) If you want to be precise I would suggest looking up the dictionary definition of support. To support means precisely what you argue the NARAL does. You are confusing support with encourage. They are definitely not (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Um-- I wouldn't call them citizens, but yes, to protect the rights of people in general. (...) Are abortions legal 3 weeks prior to the due date? I didn't think that was allowed? You're right insofar as the line needs to be drawn. Otherwise, (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Screw Abstinence?
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(...) Oops—my bad. I misread you, and I see now that you were criticizing the choice to hold the "Screw Abstinence" event rather than condeming anyone. My apologies. (...) I beg your pardon, but the specific application of language is hardly using (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) For one thing I did not condemn them for supporting the choice of abortion. There is absolutely no condemnation there at all. As I stated I fully support legal abortion so I would be stupid to condemn someone who does so too. Your argument (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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