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Re: Screw Abstinence?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 6 Oct 2005 14:51:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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But our government supports a system of protecting the rights of its
citizens-- the real debate isn’t whose choice it is, but rather whether or
not the fetus has rights which need protecting by the government.
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Um-- I wouldn’t call them citizens, but yes, to protect the rights of people in
general.
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Obviously, 1 second after birth and even before the chord is cut, the mother
cannot suddenly decide to abort. That would be murder. The only real
difference between that newborn baby and himself 3 weeks prior is physical
location in relation to the mother. So rights are somehow tied to
locality???
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Are abortions legal 3 weeks prior to the due date? I didn’t think that was
allowed? You’re right insofar as the line needs to be drawn. Otherwise, one
could argue that every time you have protected sex, you’re killing a baby. The
question is where you want to draw the line. Most pro-choice advocates aren’t
asking for abortions 21 days before due.
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It’s all about rights, and when/if the fetus has any. If the fetus hasn’t
any rights, then the government has no stake in the matter. If the fetus
does, then the government is obligated to protect them. “The right to
choose” is a fiction-- there is no such “right”.
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The right to choose is most certainly a right. I’m quite sure you don’t want to
argue that. What I think you want to argue is that one’s right to choose in NO
way overrules the fetus’ right to live, despite the fact that both rights exist.
One simply carries more weight. If sex produced office furniture in 9 months,
I’m sure you’d argue that women would have the right to decide to abort their
furniture when it was still kindling.
DaveE
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| (...) Prior to any late-term abortion legislation restricting it (not doubt opposed by NARAL), yes, in theory. (...) Yes. I'm not in the "every sperm is sacred" camp;-) (...) But they want the right to do it if they choose. (...) The right to choose (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) But our government supports a system of protecting the rights of its citizens-- the real debate isn't whose choice it is, but rather whether or not the fetus has rights which need protecting by the government. Obviously, 1 second after birth (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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