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Re: Screw Abstinence?
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Thu, 6 Oct 2005 06:47:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:

   Again, your selection of words is questionable. NARAL supports a system that allows for reproductive choice. It’s true that choice may allow for abortion,

But our government supports a system of protecting the rights of its citizens-- the real debate isn’t whose choice it is, but rather whether or not the fetus has rights which need protecting by the government.

Obviously, 1 second after birth and even before the chord is cut, the mother cannot suddenly decide to abort. That would be murder. The only real difference between that newborn baby and himself 3 weeks prior is physical location in relation to the mother. So rights are somehow tied to locality???

It’s all about rights, and when/if the fetus has any. If the fetus hasn’t any rights, then the government has no stake in the matter. If the fetus does, then the government is obligated to protect them. “The right to choose” is a fiction-- there is no such “right”.

JOHN



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  Re: Screw Abstinence?
 
(...) Um-- I wouldn't call them citizens, but yes, to protect the rights of people in general. (...) Are abortions legal 3 weeks prior to the due date? I didn't think that was allowed? You're right insofar as the line needs to be drawn. Otherwise, (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Screw Abstinence?
 
(...) Again, your selection of words is questionable. NARAL supports a system that allows for reproductive choice. It's true that choice may allow for abortion, but it also allows for non-abortion; why do you condemn NARAL for one avenue of choice (...) (19 years ago, 6-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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