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Re: Bennett IS unworthy of being used as toilet paper
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Sat, 8 Oct 2005 06:36:01 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

   Because he is neither the idiot nor the racist he’s painted to be.

It’s a self-portrait, so he has no one to blame but himself.

  
   You, on the other hand, seem to be biased in his favor and it is definitely clouding your judgment. Say what you want to about the Guardian, but defending Bennett to get at the Guardian seems pretty biased to me.

Well, yes,

We are getting somewhere at last. :-)

   because I know of him and know his politics, and so I know that the charges against him are baseless.

Followed by immediate regression. Since you admit that you are biased, how do the claims you are making have any validity? Not to mention that you are ignoring any of the current evidence that contradicts your claims.

  
As far as “defending Bennett to get at the Guardian”; well, that’s backwards. I am attacking the Guardian because of its irresponsibility in this non-story story about Bennett.

Public figures don’t have a lot of room to complain if their activities attract attention. :-)

   Okay, I just came across a piece by Richard Cohen, with whom I agree on this matter. Since the Post requires subscribing, I’ll c&p the salient paragraphs, because I think he defends Bennett better than I:

Which isn’t necessarily saying that he is successful in that defense....

  

Responding to a caller who argued that if abortion were outlawed the Social Security trust fund would benefit -- more people, more contributions, was the apparent (idiotic) reasoning -- Bennett said, sure, he understood what the fellow was saying. It was similar to the theory that the low crime rate of recent years was the consequence of high abortion rates: the fewer African American males born, the fewer crimes committed. (Young black males commit a disproportionate share of crime.) This theory has been around for some time. Bennett was not referring to anything new.

But he did add something very important: If implemented, the idea would be “an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do.”

But he doesn’t in any way contest that actually doing it wouldn’t yield the claimed results. Just casually insinuate that blacks = crime, but say mass forced abortions would be bad, so the first part is okay to say. A convenient and misleading defense.

  
He should have saved his breath. Prominent Democrats -- Harry Reid in the Senate, John Conyers and Rahm Emanuel in the House and, of course, Pelosi -- jumped all over him. Conyers wanted Bennett suspended from his radio show. Emanuel said Bennett’s comments “reflect a spirit of hate and division.” Pelosi said Bennett was out of the mainstream, and Reid simply asked for an apology.

The problem is that Bennett DID save his breath (see above).

  
Actually, it is Reid and the others who should apologize to Bennett. They were condemning and attempting to silence a public intellectual for a reference to a theory. It was not a proposal and not a recommendation -- nothing more than a possible explanation. But the Democrats preferred to pander to an audience that either had heard Bennett’s remarks out of context, or merely thought that any time conservatives talk about race, they are being racist.

The article placed the remarks in context, so who is pandering here?

   The Democrats’ obligation as politicians, as public officials, to see that we all hear the widest and richest diversity of views was suspended in favor of partisan cheap shots.

Kinda like Cohen is doing, eh?

   (The spineless White House also refused to defend Bennett.)

Bush isn’t completely clueless! My God, this was all a plot to get me to admit that, wasn’t it?

   Because I came of age in the McCarthy era, I have always thought of the Democratic Party as more protective of free speech and unpopular thought than the Republican Party. The GOP was the party of Joe McCarthy, William Jenner and other witch-hunters. Now, though, it is the Democrats who use the pieties of race, ethnicity and gender to stifle debate and smother thought,

And the Republicans seem to always be sympathetic to free speech as long as it is by racists. Besides, Bennett can say what he wants, and the Democrats are free to say he is an idiot. I can always boycott the sponsers, which is my right, and the sponsers can pull the plug on Bennett, and he can keep going on about whatever he wants to regardless, so this is an obfuscatory issue since freedom of speech doesn’t enter into it.

   pretty much what anti-intellectual intellectuals did to Larry Summers, the president of Harvard University, when he had the effrontery to ask some unorthodox questions about gender and mathematical aptitude. He was quickly instructed on how to think.

Since Cohen and Bennett can’t seem to add two plus two, I’d say they shot down Summers by themselves. :-)

  

He defends Bennett in the context of taking the Democrats out to the woodshed, but whatever. <shrug>

The best defense is being offensive..wait, a good offense...no, it was a BAD offense...well, somebody just got spanked and Cohen is the one standing there with his pants down....

-->Bruce<--



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(...) Because he is neither the idiot nor the racist he's painted to be. (...) Fair enough. (...) Well, yes, because I know of him and know his politics, and so I know that the charges against him are baseless. As far as "defending Bennett to get at (...) (19 years ago, 7-Oct-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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