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Do you have a "not so well designed" case (...) I do, teeth! if they were well designed they would be made of something that is not affected by food! Tim (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Forgive me if I'm wrong, but is the point of Creation (and religion) not that it needs no "SCIENTIFIC model"? It is a simple solution to a complex question: “What am I ?”. (...) My body hair, nipples, appendix and coccyx all appear to have no (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
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(...) You've set up your claim as a one-premiss argument: P1: God did not create Life ---therefore---...--- C1: Life has no value However, this statement is true only if and only if life's value must be injected by an outside agency, be it God or (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In order to test your suggestion, I must ask that you present to me something in nature that, in your judgment, was not designed by God and also something that, in your view, *was* designed by God. Are you able to provide examples of each? If (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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hello! (...) Great! In this case I come up with another provocative thesis: If there was no God that gave Life™ this life wouldn't have any value at all. In that case life was just matter that accidentally interachts in a way predetermined by laws (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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The parody of the US had occured to me too, it depend how you translate it. Tim (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are free to suggest any model or theory you want. But if you want to challenge an existing scientific model, then you need to present an alternative SCIENTIFIC model. So far no one has presented a scientific model for intelligent design. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) However, you have to consider the fact that the experiments were performed already knowing such compounds existed, whereas the billions of years of evolution probably had no such knowledge. ROSCO (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) AFAIK, clones are OK on Brickshelf. It would be useful if Kevin posted a rough indication of the guidelines he uses though. ROSCO (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And with good reason, since the Empire was essentially a fascist governmnent with a leader who (as we later learned) was accidentally elected to the leader-for-life position, much like Hitler was (though the circumstances were considerably (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Surely the models can be allowed to evolve. Then models with God as the designer can be compared with models without a designer and the results compared. i.e. you can determine for yourself whether it makes more sense for there to be a God who (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello! (...) Yes, the Nazis were quite good at this. And you may be intelligent enough to differentiate between the aesthetic shape of the Nazi brand and the not at all excusable ideology. But I highly doubt everybody is able to differ or even wants (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What about images with clone brand bricks? I ask for two reasons, the second of which is that these faux-Reich models include a considerable number of MEGABLOKS elements. If clones are verboten, then the pictures could be bounced for that (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not a moderator or anything, but I think the intention was really to prevent people from posting non-Lego things, and not really offensive things. So if someone wants to post Lego porn or Lego violence, that's potentially acceptable (if I (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Johannes 'Jojo' Koehler" <chutspe@gmx.net> wrote in message news:I2pBv7.1uJp@lugnet.com... (...) I disagree. I recognize the amazing talent of Nazi designers of the time. Their engineers especially, but also their graphic designers. Nazi (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I'm a lurker, but I decided to throw in my two cents on this considering I'm fluent in German (and am actually posting from Berlin right now). For all you non-German speakers "Vereinigte Staaten" is German for the United States. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't speak to the builder's inspiration, but having actually *read* some of the smack in his MOCpages account, we can assume the following about the Iron Reich: - It glorifies big, old grey walls - It glorifies big-ass numbers embedded in (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.space)
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Hello! (...) Yes. Those people think Nazi symbols and uniforms are cool because of the background, not because of their sheer look. And who thinks things with that background are "cool" is an idiot. That's what I think. I don't deny the fascination (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
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(...) For a thorough debunking of the "infinite monkeys" myth, I recommend Richard Dawkins' book "The Blind Watchmaker," which gives a great explanation of why that model is flawed as a representation of evolution or of the origins of life. Beyond (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd like to point out a difference between "trivialization" and "satire." Much of what Keith and I do is to satirize and mock the ideologies of our respective subthemes. (However, I should point out I am a socialist/communist, but I am not a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Anyone from Sweden here?
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(...) Now it is. :) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In Scotland they are known as "neeps" or turnips, and are part of our national dish of "Haggis, Neeps and Tatties". When I was a kid, we used to hollow larger ones out to make Holloween lanterns (not an easy thing to do). Scott A (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <dr_scott_arthur@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:I2MzA1.1y4v@lugnet.com... (...) other (...) No, stupidity is international.. =) (Can´t understand why someone would eat that kind of thing..) /J (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Mark Jordan" <mark.jordan@oracle.com> wrote in message news:I2oruA.JMG@lugnet.com... (...) There (...) and (...) title for (...) it as (...) I understand now then. My German isn't good enough to have seen 'Fascist'. That certainly does lean it more (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Or George Lucas, whose Imperial forces uniforms (and names - stormtroopers) are pretty clearly inspired by Nazi imagery. Which then carry through to standard Lego sets... Talk about slippery slopes... (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My German might not always be spot on, but I can see "Fascist" in the title for the page. According to the Google language tool, it means something like "vehicles OF combined fascist states new of the realm". I would translate it as "Vehicles (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Johannes 'Jojo' Koehler" <chutspe@gmx.net> wrote in message news:I2ntIn.1F7H@lugnet.com... (...) pass (...) since (...) There was a first and second reich that had nothing to do with Nazi's. There is no Nazi insignia or imagery. I can fully (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is a bunch of this kind of thing in .space too. (URL) are some more questions to ponder: - are the Brickshelf pics glorifying Nazism, parodying Nazism, or drawing on the Nazi aesthetic for ideas - or something else? - is the .space Iron (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.space)
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FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate "Johannes 'Jojo' Koehler" <chutspe@gmx.net> wrote in message news:I2ntIn.1F7H@lugnet.com... (...) Talk about a slippery slope... There are a lot of people who think Nazi uniforms, logos, designs, and equipment were (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well... I have terrorist minifigs as the Global Islamic Liberation Front. (URL) terrorism is not "romanticized" as they tend to get butt-kicked by the Chinese like here... (also my super-tank is bullying that dark gray Panzer) hehe. (URL) not (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your analogy is a rather poor one, because you imply that either sentient capabilities are required to assemble a complex form directly from simple parts or a (complex) assembler would have to be randomly generated. First, most abiogenesis (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Orion, perhaps you are right and the majority of people concur, but let me explain myself. Creating WWII-themed guns, minifigs, tanks, dioramas, etc. is okay in my opinion since it is recreating something from the past (it's historical). For (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) For what it's worth, I disagree that this is an issue. First, I do agree that Hitler and his regeme were terrible. Second, simple naming a folder with a Nazi name does not equate the the condoning of the Nazi ideal. What if the particular (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Johannes, I agree whole-heartedly with you. It's amazing that the moderators would let something like this pass. I'm always appalled by how ignorant and insensitive some people are, especially about something as well documented as WWII. If (...) (20 years ago, 19-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Isn't that something like comparing an individual's ability to reproduce the complete works of Shakespeare from memory with a fleet of monkeys being able to randomly bang them out on typewriters? (...) It would be more significant if he'd (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hello Jojo: By all means, feel free to chime in. That's what the forum is for! Regarding the thunderbolt & amino acids, you're referring to Miller's experiments in the 1950's. These experiments revealed much that was promising, though they (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hello! (...) "aircraft of the new german reich" "vehicles of Vereinigte Faschistische Staaten des Neues Reichs" Reich = Empire. That's not an offensive word by itself. But in combination with "faschistisch = fascist" it's clear the Third Reich (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ferget about that one. I'd actually be more worried that someone does re-enact that in a lab before we're prepared for the consequences. And not so long ago you may have said the same thing about just the thunderbolt part. How 'bout this? What (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (SNIP of some very good observations) (...) I suppose a good translation for us non-germans might be in order ;) ~Kevin Kevoh Kevvy Blocksidge (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. I noted the date before I cited the text. The fact that the date is in very large text at the bottom of the page should be enough for anyone! (...) WOW. September 1992! (...) Hardly an independent assessment! For now I'll stick to the (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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