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Subject:	Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:39:06 GMT
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hello! > By all means, feel free to chime in. That's what the forum is for! Great! In this case I come up with another provocative thesis: If there was no God that gave Life™ this life wouldn't have any value at all. In that case life was just matter that accidentally interachts in a way predetermined by laws of nature. The value that we, Humans, accredit to all living creatures is not inherent in the molecules and atoms that perform "life". We, Humans, save life because _we_ want to survive, not because nature wants to. Nature doesn't "want" anything, nature didn't even "create" anything. It just happened. And tomorow there may happen something that turns everything that lives to an end. If there is no divine plan behind all that. So why do we bother at all to protect life? It's only matter, nothing special. Whether something lives or not lives doesn't change anything. So let's have a great time as long as we live and don't bother if we destroy this planet..... Bye Jojo

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		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
(...) You've set up your claim as a one-premiss argument: P1: God did not create Life ---therefore---...--- C1: Life has no value However, this statement is true only if and only if life's value must be injected by an outside agency, be it God or (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
(...) I think the common misconception is that most normal people can't understand why they care about things. IE "Why do I care if spotted owls become extinct? Why do I care if someone I don't know gets tortured?" Notice, it's not "Why should I (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
(...) God was always threatening to do that anyway, so that's nothing new... God: Wars, torture, greed, stupidity, short-sightedness, vanity...I've put up with these forever and still haven't brought things to an end. But these humans have gone too (...) (20 years ago, 20-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Atheism (was: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution)
(...) Hello Jojo: By all means, feel free to chime in. That's what the forum is for! Regarding the thunderbolt & amino acids, you're referring to Miller's experiments in the 1950's. These experiments revealed much that was promising, though they (...) (20 years ago, 18-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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