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(...) You actually think that the radicals who show up at "peace rallies" are in any way indicative of the sentiments of the silent majority? All of the denominations you mentioned also oppose the mass killing of innocents at the hands of SH as (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They were mistakes, hence the acknowledgment with the payouts for wrongful deaths. What would you want? For us not to pay????? JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Avoiding the truth John? You deleted this line: "That is not my understanding. People have been needlessly killed, and Bush is covering the murderers’ <trails>." Did that story make you proud to support Bush, or did you have to wave your (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) How can you say that? I was at the peace rallies and many many signs were from Church organizations, from the United, Anglican, Methodist, and even my CRC denomination--and (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm a big fan of sarcasm for whatever strange reason... That said--see, there's this problem I've always had, and I'll dredge up two examples... In Star Trek:TMP, Kirk is talking to Decker about why Kirk was put in charge of the mission (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nobody wants war, Scott. Sometimes you haven't a choice. Sometimes you do. We either fight now or later. (...) Are you saying that most Londoners do? (...) Authority from whom? (...) How else are you going to prevent Wahabi Fascists from (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Lately? It can be fairly said that, in many ways, the South and its Conservative (by today's yardstick) agenda have won the Civil War. Quasi-covert institutionalized racism and rampant corporate cronyism are hardly the hallmarks of modern (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's a big flag, Scott, and you should thank God that the most powerful nation in the world for the last century has been a freedom loving nation. (...) I don't know how SA popped in here, but WRT to Israel-- this country is in a struggle for (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) HEAR HEAR!!! THE INJUSTICE OF IT ALL! RUN HIM OUT ON A RAIL! (BTW, which was it? 0600 or 0700?) JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Well, stumbled across this website (won't post link due to +PG13ish nature, but if you're so interested, I'm thinking you're pretty intelligent to go off and find link yourselves...) Anywho, 'Babes' are rallying against Dubya--and here's their 99 (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know I’m not John but I think these are good points. Doing thing for the benefit of your own country are fair enough providing you don’t care what other people (countries) think and you don’t try to present them as being for the good of the (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well said John. Just keep waving your little flag. This is what I don't understand: Q1. How is supporting human rights abuses in Israel and Saudi Arabia in your collective self interest if the end result (indirect or otherwise) is 911 and (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) For starters: He lied to Parliament and took my country into a war that it did not want. (...) Are you saying Londoners did not share his view? (...) What don't you understand? (...) That the "War on Terror" is the only way to progress. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Indeed; Europe (Cyprus?) was within range of one of the missle systems SH did not have. Scott A (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ahem. Now listen, I do not watch television (1), and certainly not network news, much less Fox (I don't even have cable). But I'd say this about Fox: at least they admit that they are biased towards the right. The big three and CNN (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) c /mine/Lar's/ and we're in agreement. (...) That's precisely what I'm driving at! (...) Perhaps currently they are noisier yes and more annoying, but more controlling? Besides that runs counter to my argument, discourse apparent control (...) (21 years ago, 9-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmm. That's a good point, except for the meta-fact that all arguments inconsistent with mine are summarily fallacious. (...) Interesting. I'd submit that "betterness" can be assessed in terms of which group is more effective at implementing (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure I agree that it's fact. Putting aside the false one dimensionality that you use to measure with, that is. I would assert that the Fox/Limbaugh/Moral Majority axis has gotten better at articulating their views in the media of late (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The bigger 'dirty little secret' is "Hey! The Euro's hate us anyway so who cares about their opinion where 'world events ' are concered even though the Europeans live closer to Iraq than do Americans... and hey! What about (not that I haven't (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) //Irony on// (URL) devil can cite scripture to his purpose.> //Irony off// (...) Perhaps, but the dirtier little secret is that Europe's antipathy is not and has not always been groundless. Dave! (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would suggest that, based on anything visible in the past few elections, it's hard to say that the population is moving to the Right. The 2000 election (with very high turnout) showed a Centrist tend with a split straight down the middle (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What is your implication? That he isn't a "good man"? Are you so partisan that you can't even give credit where it is due? (...) His complete lack of civility. I don't care if he believes Bush is the Devil (which he probably does BTW); he is a (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Beyond the current political issues, do we agree on the base axiom that there is a 'pendulum motion' in the course of events--in the physical world, we could look to nature, in which, when the rabbit population increases, the 'predators of (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would analyze the "swing to the right" in the US a little differently. We have been moving very left in about all ways for the past decade, and now that things are heading back to the right, the Left is crying about the departure. We are (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: snip (...) That Mike P--he's got lotsa stuff worth coveting! I think, for most aspects of life, there is this 'pendulum motion'Dark ages to 'enlightnement', from '50's nuclear family to '60's 'free (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...Mike's wealth needed redistributing... it's the socialist way ;) Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, let's be fair. You were (URL) into Mike P's house at the time! Dave! (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: <snip> (...) Well, I was called a 'liberal Canadian who loves West Wing' once in this very group. I wouldn't count myself a Canadian Liberal, however--I'd never vote for JC or any of his cronies--I (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I expect liking Bush is like onanism(1); a lot of people do it, but very few ever admit to it. ;) Seriously, it is my feeling that this group has drifted to the left slightly over the last couple of years. Does anyone agree? Scott A (Yes, I do (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In what sense? (...) In what sense? (...) He has power, but no athourity. He lost the argument a long time time ago, and ever since has relied on "might-makes-right". MLK Jr: "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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So the DU.com is just a good read... (URL) select quotes-- " Convinced that 9-11 was an opportunity to be "seized to achieve great things," Dubya told the Washington Post's Bob Woodward, "We will export death and violence to the four corners of the (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry Richard, is this better: He is nothing but a "Warmongeringhypocri...ngcoward"! :-) My latter comment of Friday was a joke. But if you check my posts, I expect you'll see I have evidenced my accusations! Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You mean turkey-gate? See (URL) Turkey stunt comes back to haunt Bush> (...) The coward comment referred to his "draft dodging" & the way he cowered on 911 instead of leading his country. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not extinct, but either too bored to respond to tired old assertions, too busy, or too preoccupied with building (all of which apply to me:-) JOHN (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, a troll of a troll? JOHN (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would disagree. Even if the sentiment in question is undeniably true, it can still be annoying behaviour to repeat it over and over and not add any other value. Suppose someone (0) constructed an automaton so that it once an hour posted "the (...) (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My mistake -- I was under the impression that such a post would, without doubt, inflame the Pro-Bush Crowd. However after several minutes searching, it appears that such a beast has become extinct here! For the sake of debate, but not as far (...) (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Well, if you can prove any of that wrong, then it's a troll, I suppose. But since you can't, then it's not a troll. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hehe.. do you have a bridge for that troll? Richard (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is a googlebomb. (URL) (21 years ago, 6-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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