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Re: Remember the Axis of Evil? [may offend]
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Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:37:47 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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Regardless of the underlying political leanings of the public, I will admit
that Republicans (and far-Right Conservatives in particular) are much
better at controlling the language of public information and debate than are
the Democrats. That’s not an endorsement of Conservative policy, nor is it a
statement of support of Conservative methods (far from it!), but it is a
fact, regrettably, and must be dealt with as such.
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I’m not sure I agree that it’s fact. Putting aside the false one dimensionality
that you use to measure with, that is.
I would assert that the Fox/Limbaugh/Moral Majority axis has gotten better at
articulating their views in the media of late but that does NOT mean that they
are *better at it* than the PETA/PFTAW/soft socialist axis are (there’s that
pesky one dimensionality again but bear with me)...
Rather, the socialist message has permeated american discourse so thoroughly for
so long that many people hardly notice it is there any more, and the media
themselves (at least in some cases) don’t realise their presupposition...
SO who’s better at it? the ones who start up and get noticed, or the ones that
have been articulating on message for 100+ years now and never got noticed (as
delivering a message) while swinging the pendulum far far their way?
I know my answer. Republicans these days, when it comes to social programs
anyway, are just Democrat-lite... Bush II apparently never met a spending bill
he didn’t like (1) While Democrats these days, when it comes to trampling civil
rights, are just Republican-lite. IMHO anyway,
1 - from the WSJ... if even they realise it, something’s amiss in the party that
claims to want less government and more privacy.
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| (...) Hmm. That's a good point, except for the meta-fact that all arguments inconsistent with mine are summarily fallacious. (...) Interesting. I'd submit that "betterness" can be assessed in terms of which group is more effective at implementing (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) I would suggest that, based on anything visible in the past few elections, it's hard to say that the population is moving to the Right. The 2000 election (with very high turnout) showed a Centrist tend with a split straight down the middle (...) (21 years ago, 8-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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