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  Re: RTL query
 
(...) That's *a* way. Calling it "best" is a value judgement. Another way is to exclude the noise if it can't behave itself. In my value system that's a lot better. (...) Which authoritarian organization is that? I'm not aware of one. The mere (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: RTL query
 
FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate "David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:Hoyz39.12rB@lugnet.com... (...) I'll The best way to solve newsgroup Signal to Noise problems is to set a good example and to drown out the noise with good (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.faq, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Money, but no justice.
 
(URL) US pays up for fatal Iraq blunders> The US military has paid out $1.5m (£907,000) to Iraqi civilians in response to a wave of negligence and wrongful death claims filed against American soldiers... Families have come forward with accounts of (...) (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Useful idiocy [Re: Bush toppled]
 
(...) It does when one is a blind supporter of Bush Jr! :) John castigates those who question Bush Jr, but remains silent when the FBI start harassing peace protestors(1) or when Bush Jr pays for people to be boiled alive(2). Who is the real "useful (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A sincere question about the Bible
 
(...) I may be wrong about this, since I was raised Methodist/Pentacostal, but my understanding of predestination only affected whether you went to heaven or not. In other words, I don't think Calvinism (the origin of predestination) assumes that we (...) (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) It's a cookie thing, I think. If you are required to check the TOS every time posting as a member, or required to enter your posting info every time, try resumbitting your posting set up while logged in as a member. James (21 years ago, 23-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Chris Phillips wrote: signed in as a member, you explictly check once in a blue moon) (...) I don't *think* I do, but maybe there are some differences, I'll have to ask Todd. (...) That's really strange because I'm not (...) (21 years ago, 23-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Maybe you use a different web interface than the rest of us do, but I am always signed in as a member, and my posts are not accepted unless I check the box on every post. Your other points are well taken. It seemed from your earlier post that (...) (21 years ago, 23-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) You don't get a pass because you're an "angry young man"... (...) No, I'm telling him to abide by the ToS, and explicitly acknowledge that it applies to him and acknowledge that he erred and wronged EVERYONE, not just Todd, and make up for it (...) (21 years ago, 23-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) (snip) (...) (snip) (...) Okay, Tom, I think I see your point now. Your issue is that the entire exchange took place outside of .debate. So you think that Jon's comment would have been fine in .debate, not not outside of it (where it occured). (...) (21 years ago, 22-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Why I support LEGO through thick and thin.
 
In lugnet.dear-lego, Nathan Wells wrote a lot which was snipped: (...) I do NOT believe that AFOLS only constitute 5 percent of Lego product sales. This is one statistic that I will never believe. IMO, it is much higher--as high as 15 percent (...) (21 years ago, 22-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Although I think Richard let his anger get the best of him when he made the post in question, I think some of these demands are a bit unreasonable. If he were required to do all these things, you might as well just censor his post because you (...) (21 years ago, 22-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Yeah, those so-'n-so's there in rtlT are just brutal at ripping into you! Hate that place! Dave K (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) With the possible exception of .rtltoronto! - Chris "Oh, you're looking for an argument? This is Abuse. Arguments are the third door on the left." (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl wrote: snip (...) 'Tis a strange day when Tom and I concur on something :) Dave K (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) I don't follow RM from group to group like you may, but his insults SEEM TO ME to be confined to .debate. As you know (or if you don't, it's time to leave, you really are as clueless as RM states), .debate has a different level/tolerance of (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Then there are many people with 'log leashes', which brings bac the idea that we are all on the same playfield--it is not 'biased' towards any particular individual. If everyone has the same 'long leash', then the word 'long' cannot be applied (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HopMIA.1JF5@lugnet.com... (...) The ToS (...) so I (...) I must confess that I rarely read the parts of ToS that contains rules that apply to conduct and behaviuor (Part 5) as I (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) What I was responding to there was Tom's assertion that Jon be suspended as well. I questioned whether insults were really grounds for reprimand for if they were, RM has been guilty numerous times in the past without consequence (long leash). (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) " Nothing to follow. Jon expressed an opinion, and a rather benign one at that. Is this grounds for banishment? And even if insulting is grounds for banishment, I personally have endured countless personal attacks at the hands of RM; far worse (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) This was exactly my thought. Further, Todd has already established that he is extremely tolerant of disagreements and does not like to police them, I've seen far worse than Jon's message in the past, and as John Neal points out, Richard has (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Of course! What else are we talking about???? JOHN (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) The same goes for Jon. Scott A Have you had a look at Arthurs Seat Yet? (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Why I support LEGO through thick and thin.
 
I agree with you totally. This is a minor issue and shouldn't be a cause for so much trouble. Clangador (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) I don't think that Hoppy needs an apologist (especially one named Kooties), for he's usually quite able to defend himself... But I've been here, in o.t.-d, thru most major discussions over the years, and yes, sometimes his passions show thru (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A sincere question about the Bible
 
(...) I would start with archetypal story of Adam and Eve and "original sin". We are free to choose from good and evil. This is a recurrent theme throughout the OT and NT. The People of God are always given the choice to choose good from evil, and (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Indeed. But one can be both truthful and abusive…. perhaps “tact” & good manners should be a posting requirement? ;) More generally, people who are castigating Richard for breaking the TOS and/or being offensive should think carefully about (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) Hear, hear! -Tim (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) Of course! How could I be so forgetful?? Must've been the too much reading I've done here on LUGNET... Anyway, from the DU.com site--top 10 conservative idiots from Monday... " The odor of hypocrisy surrounding George W. Bush grew even more (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  A sincere question about the Bible
 
Where in the Bible is the notion of free will discussed? I'm not as conversant with the text as I could be, and a friend has asked me where he could find the subject in either Testament. I imagine that the term "free will" doesn't exist in the Bible (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) From the ToS (discussion group section): 5. (do not) Post or transmit any unlawful, threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, vulgar, pornographic, profane, or indecent information of any kind, including without limitation any (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) How does protesting against Bush make you an enemy of democracy? Tim (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) Rats! Can't find the link! Fox News and the Repiublicans were talking about 'staging' the walk in to the chambers a few weeks back. Iirc, they wanted Fox News cameras there 'live' to show this 'spontaneous' event. I'll go see if I can find hte (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) Can this be true? Scott A (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) That statement implies that Bush is a friend of democracy; tell that to those who live under the despots Bush supports! Anyhow, us Brits don't fall for the lie that to protest is somehow "unpatriotic". Also note that: "100,000" is the lower (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HopF1M.7y8@lugnet.com... Snip (...) neat (...) just (...) it (...) the (...) Well.. I have no interests in either way of WHO is getting banned and WHY.. or not... but if something is (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) How about the exaggerated counts of Iraqis as the statue fell? Enemies of Democracy? When Dubyas administration selectively 'bans' free speech in your own country, sets up 'free speech' zones far away from where Dubya will be, and works out (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Seriously...
 
(...) I saw it... I saw the whole thread. When I read Jon's post I thought... "hmm.. Jon's stated what many of us know to be true and put it into one neat package... that's not going to be received well by Richard but I expect just about everyone (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Bush toppled
 
(...) I'm sure the enemies of Democracy will be gratified by the excessive news coverage and exaggerated counts of protesters. Useful idiots, really. I was very entertained by some solicited letters from the Guardian addressed to Bush: (URL) One in (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Bush toppled
 
Last night in London 100,000 plus protestetsers toppled Bush Jr: (URL) It’s been a strange visit as he has stayed beyond shouting distance of the public; as he may not like what he hears! He even had to cancel a trip to Parliament when it became (...) (21 years ago, 21-Nov-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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