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[The Real Hal Moore]¬ Interview of Lt. General Harold G. Moore by William F. Jasper (URL) recount the bitter anger and frustration that you and others in the military felt concerning the decisions in Washington to allow the Communist forces to have (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) Very good quote. Essentially saying let someone else think and act for me. There have got to be better ways to achieve anti-terrorism goals than promoting fear and division. I wonder how events would have played out post 9/11 had a less (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes, but Clinton remembered one thing, "It's the economy, stupid." People knew that Nixon was a mean man, not an honest man. But they felt he could run the country. Clinton could run the country: not one of your complaints about him precludes (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Article 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights. Would they license a horse? Don't they license motorcycles and bikes? Aren't the roads called "rights of way." We all have the right to travel -- this was recognized as early as Magna Carta in the common (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Shrub has been AWOL and everything about his "military" career was protected and sanctified by Daddy Shrub himself -- give it a rest. It's all well covered up and with the appropriate gloss of "spin", just like his drug and alcohol record. So, (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) Totally on the same page with John--driving's a priviledge, not a right, and getting a drivers license, as it stands today in many areas, is getting your picture taken such that when and if (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Please cite in the Constitution this "right". (...) Bus, train, taxi, airplane, unicycle, bicycle, tricycle, Segway; take your pick. (...) How about theft? (...) Yet another conspiracy? (...) Are you kidding me??? You are asking the state to (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Man if I don’t log on for just one day some of these posts just get buried by others. (...) I just had to address this statement. It actually reminded me of the way I felt about Clinton during his presidency. In 1992 when he was first elected I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Allow me to correct myself: a driver's license is specifically enumerated as not a right in California. Other states may be different, though I don't specically know of any that vary from that. The right to travel is in no way prohibited. You (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Weapons Of Mass Disappearance The war in Iraq was based largely on intelligence about banned arms that still haven't been found. Was America's spy craft wrong - or manipulated? (URL) Where are Iraq’s WMDs? The message was plain: Saddam’s weapons of (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, because his ineffective attempt to deal with Saddam involved the mere launching of 100s of cruise missiles at Iraq. But how can you even make that assertion? What if he had taken bold action after the first attack on the WTC? His limp (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "The truth"??? Are you alleging that the Left has a corner on the truth? Your arguments are all about half truths through character assassination, conspiratorial innuendo, and dishonesty. That you quote the Bible merely adds to the irony which (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There is no point of comparison between oral sex between consenting adults and mass murder/war crime on the scale that occurred in Iraq. A Slick Willy did not cost us even one American life. I grieve for the unjustified soldiers lost in Iraq (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It gets to the point when I almost hesitate to click on the BBC link... in fear of what other atrocity may surface regarding the 'most powerful man in the world' directing the 'most powerful nation in the world'. But there are those who would (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, is true that a welfare society does seem to have this very issue--simgle moms having more kids to get more money, and that should be dealt with... Here's a thought-- Better education. But I'm just throwing off the top of my head here... (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The part I always appreciate is the "empty attacks" which, thus far, are totally un-refuted and are still standing out there waiting for *any* type of response. Shooting the messenger by calling him a 'whining moron' and equating the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a debate forum-- perhaps try your luck in .fun, or .tiredliberalpropoganda... JOHN (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: snip (...) That statement is patently false! It comes from the rich's own pocket! Get your facts straight, you socialist in sheep's clothing. (...) Tax Credit = $$$ give away. Explain to me why I (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sheesh! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I STRONGLY disagree. Post on, Koudys!!! Let the truth set us free and shut up the Willfully Ignorant, Ugly American. -- Hop-Frog (a Rainbow-Coloured Beautiful American, Chaotic and Free!) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmm, I find this a sticking point. I believe the right to travel by common conveyance is a right. If it were otherwise I'd be stuck at home unless I were willing to obtain whatever license is necessary to travel -- and then my right to travel (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Okay, Dave, I think we got it after the 10th time you said it-- you think George Bush is a moron and a liar and should be removed. Time to move on, because now you are starting to sound like the moron with your constant repetitious whining. (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't worry, Mr.Koudys. We've got your information. -J. Ashcroft (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One of them will probably be me 'cause I won't keep quiet on the contempt I hold for Dubya and his moronic, boldfaced lieing actions. So add me to yer lists FBI dudes, and know that I stand for freedom of expression--your boss is an idiot who (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Responding to my own posts, 'cause, well, I can... The differnce b/w the BBC website and the CNN website-- BBC News - Americas (URL) which the top stories are concerning the WMD investigation " US Senate opens Iraq weapons probe A Congressional (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Boy, Dave, you just don't comprehend the subtleties of the American Justice System! There's no requirement that the detainee be "not American" in order to be held indefinitely without access to due process. All that's necessary is for the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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We can do whatever we want and offer no apologies... (URL) it's a great day for news...) " The report looks into the cases of 762 people who were living in the US illegally and were detained in the 11 months following the attacks. " and the part (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) US Congress has ordered an investigation into possible abuse of intelligence information about alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. " later.. " "To date, you have offered no explanation as to why you and your most senior advisers made (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have a read of this: Now dissent is [immoral]: (URL) nation is now at war," said Peter Beinart, the editor of the liberal magazine New Republic. "And in such an environment, domestic political dissent is immoral without a prior statement of (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Having an entity in theory such as the ACLU is probably a Good Thing®, but the extreme, agenda-driving wackos currently running it make it a liability. As you say, any idiot can see that this case has absolutely nothing to do with religious (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm very glad the ACLU is there to take the case. I must say, I hope they lose, and I presume they will since a driver's license is not a right, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest that they took the case. Without the ACLU, all we would (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) Sorry' it's (URL) a Canadian thing and all... sorry for any confusion Dave K (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, we have a situation in Toronto where a 10 year old girl disappeared and the next day was found in pieces in a bag on Toronto Island--the police wanted to take DNA samples of all previously convicted pedophiles in the area and some (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm afraid I let my personal feelings out a bit-- I'm still reeling from the news that the ACLU deciding to defend that Florida women who wants her driver's license photo ID taken with her veil on. We face more danger to our republic from our (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I almost fell outta my chair! If it was a type-o it's really funny. If it's intended, it's still equally as funny! Perfectly said, John! Dave K (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Moooon River! "Hey Doc, you got the whole fist up there?" JOHN (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I am not particularily concerned, because even if that worse-case scenario were to come about, the control wouldn't affect the WWW, where IMO the future of the exchange of information lies. Let's face it, any news source is biased whether they (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, no. I think John is on the right (alimentary) track here. Lawyers and enemas both try and get in the same place. :-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Naw, that's no good. Enemas are supposed to provide at least *some* relief. Dave! (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: <snip> (...) Ah, now we are starting to talk about the real enema here;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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