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(...) Hooo boy. The Register is far, far to the right. The Los Angeles Times is barely left of center. Honestly, they both reflect the counties they are in. (...) I gotta agree with this assessment (see above). (...) Conservative: pro laissez-faire, (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Your Rights: Use 'Em or Lose 'Em" (URL) if currently proposed legislation - PATRIOT Act II - passes, you may no longer even be a citizen. Under PATRIOT II, if you attend a legal protest sponsored by an organization the government has listed as (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Larry. We know what your stated views are with regard to IP: From: (URL) ==+== I saw his column today in the Grand Rapids Press. So I thought I'd share it with you. But of course to just cut and paste it in here is copyright (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My favourite place to debate is the pub, but that's another story. ;) (...) I tend not to trust US media due to its “liberal” bias and its blind support for all things Bush... ;) (1) Here's a couple of quotes for you: Two 'clean' trucks - the (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm very much on the same lilly pad as Sir Frog here. I've become EXTREMELY uncomfortable in the years since I've watched the Bush dynasty flourish. It all makes a thinking American either very paranoid or disdainful of the American system's (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, I actively dislike Shrub. I hope that is very clear, no dodging necessary. I think he is the worst president we have had in my lifetime (which is to say the last 40 years or so). And I hope he is actually the idiot that I think he may be (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I need to remember to put my smily face when I am kidding. No I don't believe the sweeping generalization that all media is biased. My two favorite papers, the Orange county register and the San Bernadino Sun times are both right of center, (...) (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Such an attack is usally groundless and proffered by a person that has no idea what the "left" is really about. The all encompassing "media" is hardly "left." Offhand, I'd say Costello has no real knowledge of "left" or "right" -- I hear a lot (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sort of. I said it was my fear, and a likely outcome, but not a certainty. At least that's the way I *prefer* to remember it. Peace-loss probability is increasing, in my view, that's for sure. Plus I can't take credit for coining the phrase by (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A. I'm actually in favor of less taxation, but that it is not the way our system is currently structured and I am not going to hold my breath waiting for a change. B. I don't want to get mired in a discussion about what is 'income' v. 'capital' -- (...) (21 years ago, 1-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Peace, love, man! :-) (...) Moore is entertaining, kinda like that beacon of The Liberal Media, Rush Limbaugh. And in the same way. ;-) Not that Moore's veracity is the question here, rather that there are those in the media already (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tsk. Someone from southern california and he doesn't mention the Orange County Register. The Long Beach paper is (was? it's been a while since I've seen it) conservative. The Los Angeles Times is barely left of center. The New York Times: who (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For a while... but not for long. Do your research. Confiscatory taxes kill off growth. (...) Not for long. Once the rich were mined out, what then? (...) Depends on what you mean. Do I want to see otherwise virtuous people who had some (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First off I thought everyone was generally shooting from the hip, our debate points here on a message board dedicated to fans of Lego aren’t going to change policy. Most of my politically “like minded” friends laugh at me when I tell them that (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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You decide whom to trust on the "war on terror". Bush today: "This is a time for all of us to unite in the defence of liberty, and to step up to the shared duties of free nations." Amnesty International this week: "In the name of security, politics (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It sounds to me like you are shooting from the hip. Can you support your claims? Scott A (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Can't he be both? (...) I always find it strange that people like Rumsfeld are not elected. He appears to be accountable to no one. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Moore complains about it because Dubya's economy plans are more profitable to the riches than to poor. Also, I'd say that his point of view on the problems that USA are dealing with is more accurate and intelligent than Dubya could ever (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I am a bit concerned, and agree with you here. I think programming has long been homogenized. However, I rarely see the pro conservative agenda being advanced. My main concern is the lack (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Wow, I don't check OTD for a couple of days and I miss an uninterupted anti-Bush love fest. (...) Yes, let us not forget that bastion of truth Michael Moore (end sarcasm), I am not completely sure if he is a deliberate liar, or if he genuinely (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (pondering actions of Bush) Both? -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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While file-sharing enthusiasts debate the draconian powers of the DMCA, and while slack-jawed-America-at-large watches the Laci Peterson case and an avalanche of pro-war journalism, a minor piece of legislation is being prepared for a vote on June (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And do you consider that to be the cause or the consequence of your reply? :-P Pedro (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Now, his administration as a whole I think is a blatant, barefaced (or [bold], if you prefer), bunch of power-hungry liars. (...) I rather imagine Robert Scheer and Michael Moore (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I hadn't meant it in that way, but now that you mention it.... -->Bruce<-- (ahhhhh! I replied to Scott! The world is coming to an end) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've never seen it discussed here, but the excellent radio program This American Life ran a story on it recently: (URL) that link doesn't work, go to (URL) and look for the episode titled "Regime Change" from 4/18/03. Critics sometimes look (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and all the tainted & subsidised crops that the EU consumers won't buy are being dumped on the developing world... to the ruin of farmers there. It will get worse if the US ever starts labelling GM products (which I think it should). (...) (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Well it looks like those involved won't be taking any holidays in Spain for a while: US soldiers face war crime charge (URL) ==+== The family of a Spanish television cameraman killed when a US tank opened fire on the Palestine hotel in Baghdad (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thus full circle, bringing back the idea of the UN and it's 'un'failure. Of course, some would say that the *only* reason why Iraq's supposed WoMD were destroyed at all was the imminent threat of the US military action. I would not be one of (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ...and thus complied with res 1441? Scott A (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do you mean the neo-conservatives in the USA? ;) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well so says Paul Wolfowitz (Deputy Defence Secretary): WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz (URL) ==+== The Bush administration focused on alleged weapons of mass destruction as the primary justification for toppling Saddam (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ...and now "intelligence" suggests Iran is a problem... Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It tells me that a television show these days must entertain as well as educate. Unfortunately no matter how hard I try to get my son to watch this show, he simply will not. He has been able to read since he was three, but finds this show (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"The case for war is blown apart" (URL) leaves no doubt that Iraq continues to possess and conceal lethal weapons" -- George Bush, US President 18 March, 2003 "We are asked to accept Saddam decided to destroy those weapons. I say that such a claim (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Egypt Withdraws from WTO GM Complaint" (URL) delighted that Egypt has withdrawn from this US attempt to force GM food and crops into Europe. Countries should be allowed to choose what they eat and what they grow in their fields. The United States (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"'Reading Rainbow' fights for survival" (URL) YORK (AP) -- In a plea for the life of "Reading Rainbow," host LeVar Burton returned to a familiar setting: the stage where he picked up the PBS show's seventh Emmy Award for best children's television (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But...but...it was a great victory! We kicked a dictator's hairy butt! Never mind it cost us a bazillion dollars! Never mind that all the religious zealots are coming out of the woodwork and want to run Iraq. Ooooooo, when did all this cute (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You should know better than that, Scott! You can't quote the Guardian here and 'xpect folks to heed! Beyond that, I've noticed that the new 'Merican Media expression (the 'old' one was "SH will use these non-existant WoMD near the end of the (...) (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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US finds evidence of WMD at last (URL) good news for the Pentagon yesterday was that its investigators had finally unearthed evidence of weapons of mass destruction, including 100 vials of anthrax and other dangerous bacteria. ==+== Scott A (21 years ago, 29-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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