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  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) The fact is that *no* amount of evidence would have prevented a French veto. They are too invested. And, to be honest, I don't blame them; they are looking out for what's best for France. I just wish they'd be honest about it. (...) Then why (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Parental Responsibilites (was: Megan's Law, and its implications)
 
(...) Ok, I see your point. I guess I'm comfortable with it given that I can't conceive of a situation where the rape victim wouldn't have an opportunity to terminate the pregnancy (ok, there could be situations where somehow the person doesn't (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: I am not denying the following... (...) but you must admit the truth of the following... The 10 non permanent members are essentially random. Let me pick them and I'll give you 10 votes in favour... (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) Not to mention the entire "American way of life." It can't be sour grapes for me. I hate Gore. During the election, after the primaries were over and all the qualified candidates had been ruled out, I hoped that our esteemed president would (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Parental Responsibilites (was: Megan's Law, and its implications)
 
(...) My intention is not to give the adoptive parents a way out, but to prevent the natural parents an absolute way out. I believe that the parental responsibility transcends legal fabrications. When you bring a child into the world, you owe that (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Why would you answer a question that I already know the answer to? So that I would know that you know the answer. It's not such a far-out concept. Lawyers would never dream of asking questions in the courtroom to which they don't already know (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) No, if I'd chosen 9/11/01, you'd likely have inferred it to be a claim that al Qaeda was responsible for trashing the bill of rights. And it's not sour grapes, by the way--the actions of Jeb and Harris prior to the 2000 election, not to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) I didn't want to sound like the ol' slippery slope situation, but re-reading it... there you are... K, with all these shades of grey in the world now, is hard to stand on a soap box an preach about justice and doing the right thing when me and (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Allow me to paraphrase: When will the Left and the UN stop participating in democratic debate and simply accept what the Right says on blind faith with no (or in spite of) evidence? (...) What you don't seem to understand is that even the Left (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) Maybe if the date you chose to use had been September 11, 2001, I would have gotten your drift better. Choosing Bush's inaugural date came off to me as more sour grapes. JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Why would I presume to answer a question that you presumably already know the answer to? (...) Again, we don't know that he *is* going to release these weapons, either. So where are we now? You're starting to sound much like other folks old (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Ok, if you want to play this game, then the US should have stayed out of WWII. So should Canada. Of course since we are all horrible sinners for our pasts, we might as well all just go commit suicide now. Our treatment of the Native Americans (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) institution I imagined it was... As this crisis continues, I am fast coming to the same conclusions Larry has been posting about where the UN is concerned. Keep up the postings Larry. Dave K (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) First of all, fie on you for misuse of Dave! Larry is the clear master of the usage, so I'd advise you to study his stylings. So says Dave! Second of all: i·ro·ny n. pl. i·ro·nies 1. The use of words to express something different from and (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) Got it now. My misteak actually believing Dave! when he said he was over the election a few posts ago...:-) JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Sadam Hussein. <snip> (...) Perhaps. But at least they have stopped trying to kill us. JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) What, no guess? (...) Uh, we don't know that. (...) Or, he could just attack you for no reason. (...) I don't get your point. (...) Dave, Dave, Dave, David. When will you and the UN and the Left learn-- weapons inspections are a JOKE. Do we (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
 
Interestingly, none of these objections seem to bother other participating countries, and it didn't bother Clinton any either (last time I checked he was a red blooded american also, and hey at least he showed signs of life) -- it bothers Shrub!!! (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Look to the Iraq-Iran war for an example. Nationalism can win out over common sense. Happens all the time. Not to mention they hardly trust the motives of the United States (I don't, so why should the Iraqi people?). (...) It's possible, but (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) Err, I think he's referring to the stolen election being the sign that the Bill of Rights are done for (missing since inauguration day) in our country. He's wrong, of course. The Bill of Rights was trampled on way before that. I keep trying to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Stole it from the Indians (and gave them that awful name, too). In Canada the French stole it fom the Indians, and then had the brits steal it from them (who went on to steal the rest of it from the Indians). Oh, and who's self-proclaimed hero (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) ?? Do you mean the UN? Seeing the back of that morally relativistic failed talk society as a force in the world is about the only good that will come of this whole mess. (URL) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Yeah, makes no sense to folks who consistantly an now effortlessly, ignore their fellow citizen. (...) Yeah, Iraq--poor, decimated, blowed up country sent alotta ter'ists flying planes into your buildings... Iraq--the focal point on the 'war (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) -->Bruce<-- you are finally coming around! ;-) JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Why would they risk their lives to save Saddam's ass? (...) Or like an unleashing of a chemical/biological agent. (...) This assertion is patently false. The dirty little secret is that Al Qaeda is the enemy of ALL Muslims. Even if Al Qaeda (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Take the Oreos, Cremewiches are where it's at! And how dare you criticize President Bush during a war! You are failing to support our troops, you traitor tot! America, love it or leave it; impeach Earl Warren; reverse discrimination; liberal (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Thus far none have been released, and none would have been released if there was no war. They may have been found by the inspectors, if given the time needed, and even if not--you let a tiger roam around, you may not get attecked--you back him (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: An interesting find
 
(...) Err, it was only 1 of 14 copies commissioned by George Washington, according the to the article. JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) We all accept that the election is over (thank you, Papa Bush, Jeb, Katherine, and Dubya), but what Conservatives don't seem to recognize is that Dubya was not elected by a majority. I can accept that we have a president who was appointed to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) That statement makes absolutely no sense, but thanks for invoking the popular buzz words of the Left, "disenfranshised" and "hanging chads". I've said it before, I'll say it again, and probably again in the future: The election is over-- move (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Megan's Law, and its implications
 
(...) I agree that in many cases the parent would want to help, and a properly raised kid should want to be productive around the house. (...) Ok, it did seem reasonable that the parental obligation mostly ends when the child attains (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) <snip> (...) Again, it came across my desk (probably written by one of these peace loving pink wearing radicals...), and, as shown by you, there are many things we could possibly discuss--but the concerns raised are concerns that should be (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Some readers may recall with fondness this highpoint of American discourse: (URL) it's no surprise that similar word-scapegoating is still going on: (URL) the French have made similar lexicographic revisions, some of which I list for you (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) <snip> Q: Who is responsible for killing more MUSLIMS than anyone else in the world? Q: Who is about to order the unleashing of chemical and/or biological weapons on US troops that he always claimed he never had? Q: Who's self-proclaimed hero (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  An interesting find
 
(URL) funny thing is that the *actual* bill of rights has been missing since January 20, 2001. Dave! (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Gutless Canadian Lefities as well And Gutless American Lefties who are now disenfranchised completely as to your very own political process, as if hanging chads was bad 'nuff... Have fun storming the castle--your homeland won't ever be the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) Ahem. The he meant the war with Iraq, not the "war" with gutless, European lefties. JOHN (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) The difference between Dubya-Dubya III and Desert Storm may well be that in the latter, the Iraqi soldiers knew they were in the wrong in the first place and didn't have any heart in holding Kuwait. This time it is about defending Iraq and we (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gulf of understanding is mutual
 
(...) The USA has lost this war already. Don't doubt that. See: Europe poll sees US falling from favour (URL) last year the proportion with a favourable view of the US has dropped from 75% to 48% in Britain, 76% to 34% in Italy, 50% to 14% in (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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