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Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
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Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:28:42 GMT
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Interestingly, none of these objections seem to bother other participating
countries, and it didn't bother Clinton any either (last time I checked he
was a red blooded american also, and hey at least he showed signs of life)
-- it bothers Shrub!!! Now ask yourself why, and again, and again.
Eventually you're bound to get some of it right if you keep trying.
I am in favor of everyone playing by the same rules, that's all. Is that so
much to ask? I can take or leave the U.N. itself -- but you can't just use
the idea of it as a bludgeon for your opponents unless you intend to submit
to the same bludgeon yourself, right? Shrub has been using the U.N. as a
tool of coercion to which he doesn't intend to submit the U.S. Wonderful.
Just don't pretend that it's right or just.
Shrub has even claimed (somewhere there is a quote that I cannot currently
locate) that if the Iraqi people defend themselves against an American
invasion that they may later be tried for war crimes! Can't you see how
crazy that is? First we make them almost defenseless except for some meager
degree of conventional weapons so that we are almost guaranteed a total
genocidal annihilation of their forces (people, right? -- men, women,
children). Then we tell them if they defend themselves it may be a war
crime to have done so. Of course, we are ourselves are immune to such
charges. Can someone explain this to me, because I must be so stupid that I
just do not understand how this is just or right?
I am almost always in favor of peace because then bunches of people don't
needlessly die. Call me crazy if you must.
If you think the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are NOT about oil. Please
have your head examined, or perhaps try pulling it out of your behind and
get some much needed fresh air. American imperialism will do for us exactly
what British imperialism did for the English peoples -- made them one of the
most hated targets in the world.
And Afghanistan was about OBL and not about a nice big fat oil pipeline that
happens to be there. I'm glad we took care of that OBL guy -- boy, was he a
problem...! Oh wait, we didn't manage to accomplish that goal? So I guess
what we did manage to achieve was what exactly...?
This war is precisely another oil grab -- watch and see. The oil fields are
for the Iraqi people? Sure, as long as Halliburton gets its cut first and
off the top, if you please...
It has already been stated that privatized oil deals are in the works. We
are going into Iraq "to disarm" the Iraqis whether S.H. is there or not
(this was stated somewhere on BBC site -- I can only waste so much time
looking crap up for y'all).
Now you can believe whatever it pleases you to believe -- just stop acting
as if there is some universal ethic under which the U.S. is currently
operating. There is no such ethic. We are under the thumb of the most evil
"corporatocracy" we have yet seen. These Enron and Halliburton fiascos are
just the beginning...
But don't trouble yourself, keep your nose to the grindstone 'n' all. Be
happy in the north american game preserve we call the U.S. It amuses the
CEOs of the U.S. to have it so...
Go Team!!!
-- Hop-Frog
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