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  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) Okay, please don't take offence, but where is one to start a discussion on the topic: "LEGO juniorization: Good or Bad"? I know it is not supposed to be here (off-offtopic as it is), but There is no Lugnet.On-topic.debate, is there? I want to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Scott and Larry Show: Call for a Series Finale
 
(...) [snip] (...) Yes!!!...!!! YES-YES-YES-YES-YES-...ES-YES-YES -YES-YES-YES-YES-YES...YES-YES-YE S-YES-YES-YES-YES-YE...-YES-YES-Y ES-YES-YES-YES-YES-Y...S-YES-YES- YES-YES! Just like Larry should fail to be baited by your antics. (...) We are (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) Ah, OK...sorry...you're right! Man. Talking to people about (or not about!) Lego is so, so much harder than just playing with Lego. I think I'll stick to the latter, and leave Hell to the demons. --Dave (jot and jab) xxx...xxx (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) I'm still kind of confused. I think you're missing a bit of the semantic language in what was said--he's implying that though his Beretta is the vehicle that piqued people's interest in LEGO anew, they've come here and seen *everything*, and (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: No thank you!
 
(...) Where did I say that I "did not want to receive the material"? You asked if I was too lazy to unsubscribe. I said "no". Can you not join the dots together? Scott A (23 years ago, 23-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Apology.
 
Larry, You invade my privacy. You act on my behalf without my permission. You then, to top it all off, dress insults and weasel words up as an apology. What is one to think of you? Do you have no self respect? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 23-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) But do these themes not represent the battle of "Good" against "Bad" in a simple way? I'm not sure a *model* gun does that? Jeff's gun is a model *not* a toy. As a model it is great. It is impressive. However, I don't want one. What affirmed (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) (URL) Lego didn't really "approve", they just gave the artist permission to use the logo before realizing exactly what the project was going to be. Apparently he approached them about modelling a "hospital" initially for an artistic piece he (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
Hello, "David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:GnH008.J1L@lugnet.com... (...) do (...) do, (...) Sorry .. i think you might understand I can't catch everything what someone might ever have built. I am interested in that one. (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) heh, i have it bookmarked for just the same reason. :) Along with Dave Eaton's little piano, go figure :) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) Isn't the idea of non-violent toys that we don't encourage the IDEA of violence? I mean, isn't an A-Bomb a historical weapon? Is that ok for a toy? How about a medieval torture chamber? At what point in history or fiction does a weapon (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) He didn't build a weapon, as far as I can tell. He build a MODEL of one. Big difference. If he built an all plastic, working, lethal hand gun that could be assembled and disassembled from easily obtainable parts, you'd have a point. Something (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) Yeah yeah, tanks rule. Huhuhuhuhu, hehehe, huhuhu. Tanks are cool. Needless to say I also enjoy tanks, aircraft, in fact any kind of cool machinery, even gun mechanisms, just so long as I am not on the receiving end. If this makes me a nutter (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) I don't think a single AFOL's model represents the entire AFOL community, do you? I don't think people are going to look at a Lego gun and say "Gee, if *that's* what adults do with Lego, they shouldn't have it!". And if they do, they can live (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) I think the romanticism of violence implicit in Pirate, Castle, Wild West, and Adventurers is far worse than the desire to make as accurate as possible a model of something which happens to be a weapon, though I obviously don't actually think (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) really? how do you figure? or was that sarcasm? if so, it doesn't refute my argument... (...) something like town? with bank robbers, police officers? All armed, by the way. (...) you maybe didn't tell him how to play, but you did tell him to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:200111271500.fA...ldomain... (...) Yeah. An a-bomb can too... (...) more (...) These are all fictional or historical themes as you may have noticed. Show me a LEGO theme that plays in our (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) (I'll be the one to break the news) Nope. Frank loses. Mentioning LEGO in this NG is akin to mentioning "he who must not be named" (and I don't mean Voldemort.... you, know, what's his name.... okay, Hitler....D'oh!) (...) Well, don't come (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) that is (...) would (...) not a (...) yah, I would be one of those people. I am also pro gun control, and yet I believe that it's not guns who kill, it's people. A gun can be used to protect, and save lives. (...) so no more pirate ships, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) (again, i say this as a big gun control advocate) I believe many people would argue with you here. I know many gun collectors who own beretta's, and not a single one of them has killed any humans. (...) Sproat already said it, but it's worth (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) Hooray! I read all eighteen hundred posts in all seventy threads, and this is the only solitary one that actually refers to LEGO BLOCKS! Thanks, Frank!! You win!!! How has this perfectly fun little toy brand come to be a means to an end for (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Using Lego to build weapons? (was Re: The Lego Beretta just won't die)
 
(...) Fortunately, people would still tend to see Lego as a toy and not a weapon IMHO. (Those who seriously consider Lego a weapon already have serious issues that this particular model won't affect one way or another.) Folks tend to associate with (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) Check the post dates. (...) Why is that people like you think it is OK for Larry to be a pest. But as soon as I defend myself I'm a "troll"? Is this the type of "debate" you want: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Whatever
 
(...) Larry, you are the troll here, not I. Do you seariouslsy doubt that? Really? What was this thread all about: (URL) was a troll to start the "god" debate *again*. (...) Rubbish. I mostly only post here or loc.uk. You have started more arguments (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Whatever
 
in article GnFpB6.6pB@lugnet.com, Larry Pieniazek at lpieniazek@mercator.com wrote on 11/26/01 6:57 PM: (...) Thus spake the Marvel comics villain. (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Whatever
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GnFpB6.6pB@lugnet.com... (...) care, (...) not (...) Well, at least 17 people have approved. As for the rest of the people here? We will never know. Note, there's no longer a way of (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Whatever
 
Larry: I think that you are seeing your own role in this in too positive a light, I even perceive that you are trying to dress up your contest with Scott as somehow heroic on behalf of the greater community on your part. It just ain't so -- at least (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Whatever
 
(...) Yes, but do they care enough to do what needs to be done? And if they care, is that thing a doable thing just because they care? I don't think so. Any call for a penalty for anyone is just whistling in the wind because it's not the community (...) (23 years ago, 27-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
"Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:m3pu65cvzh.fsf@...ldomain... (...) Yep. And its also a good thing we have people like Chris, Lawrence, Shiri, Richard, Lindsay, Frank, etc are here to do the same. (People who (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) It's a good thing we have you here to make sure that the show goes on, then, isn't it. If you want the debate to die out, you may want to avoid joining it, and especially in that tone. I've seen you doing this a lot of times, BTW. You shout (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Was it a PR plug? (was: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool)
 
(...) Not measurably better. No lives have been saved. But sure, I agree there will have been a benefit. (...) No. (...) No. (...) I don't really think that is where the UN's skills lie. I'd be a little worried if the UN chose to help that cause in (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Was it a PR plug? (was: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool)
 
(...) So? Do you have an eBay page? Do you list information that will help you to get better sales? (...) Sure. (...) Probably a little. (...) I imagine it would depend on the mechanism behind this hypothetical "chance of negative PR." Now I get to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) You all take this far too seriously. If you can detach yourselves a bit you'll see it's kind of like observing an exhibit of dung beetles in a glass case. They roll up great balls of dung, periodically have territorial fights and displays of (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Was it a PR plug? (was: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool)
 
(...) From the ebay LD page: ==+== LEGO Shop At Home LEGO Shop At Home features the newest items, plus hard to find toys, reissued classics, and special items not available in any store. LEGO Shop At Home offers the fastest, most convenient way to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
NO NO NO NO NO!!! Don't you see the point of all of our posts expressing our COMPLETE DISGUST with the Scott and Larry Show???!?!!!?! All you're doing here is continuing it with half a dozen more PETTY BICKERING POSTS amed at Larry. Grow up, get a (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Was it a PR plug? (was: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool)
 
(...) They had to announce the auction. I mean, it only makes sense. Further, letting us all know that by bidding on those items, we could be helping the victims of 911 only makes sense too. That doesn't make it a cheap PR plug. (...) How could _I_ (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) None of us are perfect Chris. Staff groups can raise all the money they want for charity as far as I am concerned. I'm just not all that hot on companies using charity for cheap PR. Look at the time and effort LD spent on those auctions. Cost (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) Scott, Showed more tact! I guess there is nothing wrong with your thinking what you think. And there's nothing wrong with stating it in the right venue. And there's nothing wrong with exploring that idea with others in a productive way. But (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Apology.
 
(...) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: It's brawl night in the kiddie pool
 
(...) My view on that still stands. Perhaps I should have bit my lip or showed more tact, but my view still stands. I'm afraid I would rather have unpopular views than change my views to represent public opinion. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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