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  Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta loveOracle...)
 
(...) Yes - easier to illegally get arms. I could get an illegal gun MUCH easier than a legal gun, yet I choose to wait and get one following the ridiculous laws of this state. How does the ease of illegal acquisition for criminals affect the fact (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Future of Humanity (was: lotsa stuff)
 
(...) I would think that most people with at least middling intelligence would tend to agree that decreasing the overall intelligence level of our species is the "wrong way". Do you have a reason to think that decreasing our species intelligence is (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: At last, a Federal program we can all support.
 
(...) It's like those shows on the Discovery Channel that quote "UFO experts" or "experts in the paranormal." How the heck does someone qualify as a UFO expert? Has he "seen" a bunch of UFOs? Has he heard a lot of stories about UFOs? Did he see (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
(...) In the UK this is already done indirectly. I think speed is altered based on how close the cars are travelling together on some roads leading to London - slow moving cars travel closer together. In these type of conditions, reducing the speed (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: At last, a Federal program we can all support.
 
Dave Schuler brings our attention to: (...) -> 1. Five years experience as a healer (meaning that -> close to half of their professional time has been -> spent providing energy healing, spiritual healing, -> prayer, or shamanic healing to (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
(...) What would be cool is signage that responds to the weather. Based on the temperature and state of precipitation (or even reflective characteristics of the road and atmospheric light-transmission characteristics), the signs could display a (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
(...) Hmm Civil engineering. This does work for some roads, but, for most, the 85th percentile speed just keeps rising (if my memory serves my right). For most roads, all the 85th percentile rule shows is that 15 percent of drivers are willing to (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  At last, a Federal program we can all support.
 
(URL) Ms. Targ has received $243,228.00 from the NIH to fund her bogus study, representing the first installment on what is likely to "amount to more than 2 million dollars of federal funds over the next few years." This quote is pulled from (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: <snip> The theory of how to set speeds isn't just some neato thing I dreamed up, it's commonly accepted practice, as outlined in Transportation Engineering texts... you can look it up or take (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
(...) Who are smart enough to know what level or risk is appropriate in all situations. Right? (...) The 'correct' speed. (...) What Larry is saying is that while they might be exceeding the posted speed limit, the problem is that the posted speed (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  'work of neo-Nazis' (Re: Anthrax Info)
 
(...) This was interesting: Genetic sleuths rush to identify anthrax strains in mail attacks (URL) It reminded me (indirectly) of a story I read yesterday about the current anthrax problem. The content makes some sense, and mirrors a view I read on (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Why Do so many hate America"... or is it "Why does America hate US?"?
 
(...) Richard, Did you forget this - :-) ? It can be argued that your president was moving your nation in that direction up until September 11th. Did you view that as a success? Further, take a look at how much the USA has relied on overseas help (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gray VS. Black Metroliner Nose
 
(...) I don't think that there are any which are purely industreal which still do, at least for regular use. Mind you, I can name a railway here that shouldn't exist, but does too...(That'd be the E&N on Vancouver Island...it is still here because (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Why Do so many hate America"... or is it "Why does America hate US?"?
 
(...) I guess some (many?) cave-men said[1] something similar when they started living together in communities, and others later when communities started living in states. ROSCO [1] or grunted? made their feelings known somehow, anyway... (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
 
Just some thoughts.... (bad ones at that) (...) Ok, so let's say that the average driving speed in america has gone up over the past few decades. I believe it has, but I don't have a statistic in front of me. The reasons for this increase are (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Anthrax Info
 
The leading scientific journal nature is publishing some information on anthrax on its website including some older articles(both hard science and policy issues are covered). (URL) access fee has been removed for this section -chris (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Why Do so many hate America"... or is it "Why does America hate US?"?
 
(...) I waffle on this. Long time readers know I usually lean in the jeffersonian "honest friendship for all, entangling alliances with none" direction but I've been somewhat swayed lately by those who argue that 200 years on, with ICBM transit (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "Why Do so many hate America"... or is it "Why does America hate US?"?
 
(...) I am willing to agree with this much. Would doing nothing as far as foreign policy goes be too difficult a course of action to follow for some reason? I say screw the rest of the world -- feed the U.S.! We could change the face of the U.S. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism
 
(...) Ignore the neighbours for now. Think about how the current troubles started 13 months ago. Think about all those lovely residential developments Israel is allowing on land which does not belong to them. Think about the innocents they are (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gray VS. Black Metroliner Nose
 
(...) I think he was discounting tourist roads. I don't think any non tourist US road uses steam in revenue service on a regular basis (unless you count fireless). (...) You're going to need to provide a cite and detailed analysis for that. ACE (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How do you spell Osama?
 
(...) btw: Horn-tooting: It was nice to see that my speculation on bin = ibn was founded. LFB (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How do you spell Osama?
 
(...) Yes. It is. A fairly good synopsis, too. (In my own work, I've had to deal with the Egyptian Colonel Arabi, who is variously "Orabi," "Urabi," "Araby," "`Urabi," and so forth.[1] "Hussein" is also "Husain" and "Husayn;" Nasser is "Nasr" and (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gray VS. Black Metroliner Nose
 
(...) I belive Grand Canyon Railway is. Josh Used correctly, modern steam would be cheaper (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What does it take to be a true Christian?
 
(...) Being simply more powerful doesn't imply, to my mind, a difference of "kind" in moralities, only a difference of "degrees." Though the Mayan Gods weren't moral authorities of any particular kind, I'd wager that moral codes still existed within (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What happened?
 
(...) was (...) This might sound silly, but it just occured to me as interesting that while we have made it illegal to revolt, we have core rules that encourage revolution. Jefferson certainly seems to have thought that periodic revolutions is a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  How do you spell Laden? (was: How do you spell Osama?)
 
(...) This isn't a direct response to Larry's issue, but as three-part nostalgia/humor/irony and surface-almost-relation, I'm posting. In the fourteenth note to this group -- (URL) you can find A) an interesting spelling of bin Laden, B) a joke (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "Why U.S. Military Bases Are Good for Mecca and Medina"
 
Found it. (URL) this true? Have we had bases and a military presence in SA all along? Grr... Time to stop propping that oppressive regime up (but let's not let it be the first card we pull out of the stack, we need to take care of some other (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  How do you spell Osama?
 
Long time readers may recall my grousing at not knowing how to spell Koran the currently correct way... well, it's not my fault. I hope this isn't viewed as debate fodder, merely information (I found it while rooting for something else that IS going (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) does (...) First, I wonder even if true, if it really does. Don't Christians belive that Christ will return to bring in the new world? Doesn't that have to be someone? Mightn't it be a person born and raised normally (let's say, as a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "Why Do so many hate America"... or is it "Why does America hate US?"?
 
From the Phillipines, via my IBMTEXT alumni list (URL) found it quite interesting... however I also agree in part with some of the responses to it from that list, here's one in its entireity: - start - That is certainly a third-world editorial. The (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gray VS. Black Metroliner Nose
 
(...) Hardly. So what...it costs more than diesel for maintance, and since US railways are profit orented, that's what they use (well, for the most part...I could name a few US railways that use steam, although I cannot think of any which are (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What does it take to be a true Christian?
 
(...) I wonder if C.S. Lewis examined the Mayan belief system? The Mesoamerican system of gods is pretty alien. They are neither good, nor bad, taken as a whole, just more powerful. Further, I have to wonder if the ethos of "be willing to sacrifice (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What does it take to be a true Christian?
 
(...) To be a true Christian, I'd say that one must be first squarely in agreement with the essentials of the faith--the clearest and most basic beliefs that the early believers held regarding the person of Christ, and have which been a bedrock of (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) Do you have a cite for that? What I have heard from some sources is that he thought he might be in the middle of a prophecy that was playing out, but not that he thought he was "Jesus" any more than he thought every single person who accepted (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  What does it take to be a true Christian?
 
(...) I'm very interested in some answers to this, actually-- particularly from a Christian perspective. I think I've tried to define Christianity a couple times as certain sets of philosophical/moral beliefs combined with supernatural beliefs, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) Er, didn't Koresh think he *was* Christ? I'd call that more than just "not mainstream." best LFB (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism
 
(...) I think that the author may have a bit of an under-siege mentality, but I found at least one of his points very important. There have been, as the author pointed out, a lot of condescending statments such as "You realize why they hate you, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) What does it take to be a 'true' vegetarian? I would say that a 'true' vegetarian is one who accepts and lives by the behaviors demanded by vegetarianism, ie not eating meat. A 'true' Christian, I would suggest, is one who accepts and lives by (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) I'd argue that the best and only way to determine if one is living consistently with the precepts of an adopted or assumed philosophical position/worldview is to compare the precepts to the behavior and try to determine whether or not that (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism
 
This article certainly has some reason on its side, yet I can't help but suspect its goal is to preserve US support for Zionism. We in Germany are pretty well aware of the fact that it is almost impossible to reason against the "less wise" portions (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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