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Re: Can't Drive 65 (was 'Re: Tolerance of vice')
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Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:02:35 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
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The theory of how to set speeds isn't just some neato thing I dreamed up,
it's commonly accepted practice, as outlined in Transportation Engineering
texts... you can look it up or take my word for it (I remember reading it in
mine, and again in some Michigan DOT documentation I happened to be
reviewing when I was on an MDOT project). Whichever you choose.
> Larry is claiming that residents of an area shouldn't 'artificially' lower the
> speed limit so that they can post officers and ticket travellers-through. I
> think that whoever owns the road should set the speed limits and the fines for
> violating them. And I think generally that small roads should be owned by
> those who own land on the road cooperatively. And I would have guessed that
> Larry agreed with that.
I DO!
*If* we're talking about private roads, that is. With private roads, the
owners of course can set whatever rules they like, and people will vote with
their feet (or in this case, their steering wheels :-) ). But we're talking
about PUBLIC roads here. Hence, the drivers of the road are as good an
approximation of the owners as you're likely to get, certainly far better
than any random bureaucrat would be.
> So how do we mix political issues and engineering
> issues and come out with a good solution.
Privatize the roads? :-) Said tongue in cheek of course. I don't advocate
privatizing the roads till all the easier stuff is done first. Which may
never come to pass, I'm realistic enough to realise that.
++Lar (the one and only, accept no substitutes)
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| (...) Hmm Civil engineering. This does work for some roads, but, for most, the 85th percentile speed just keeps rising (if my memory serves my right). For most roads, all the 85th percentile rule shows is that 15 percent of drivers are willing to (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Who are smart enough to know what level or risk is appropriate in all situations. Right? (...) The 'correct' speed. (...) What Larry is saying is that while they might be exceeding the posted speed limit, the problem is that the posted speed (...) (23 years ago, 29-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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