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Re: Gray VS. Black Metroliner Nose
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:02:28 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Powell writes:
> > Grow up, people. Steam lost. It costs too much.
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> Hardly. So what...it costs more than diesel for maintance, and since US
> railways are profit orented, that's what they use (well, for the most part...I
> could name a few US railways that use steam, although I cannot think of any
> which are exclusively steam).
I belive Grand Canyon Railway is.
Josh
Used correctly, modern steam would be cheaper
> than diesel to run (you don't believe me? Check out what was written about the
> ACE engines in ~1982- 614T was cheaper to fuel than a diesel, and it was NOT
> working right by the end of the testing...). Steam would also be cheaper to
> buy (historically, steam ran to about 1/5th of the price of diesel...)- the big
> bugaboo is maintance. Fuel wasted when idling is not a big concern, when was
> the last time you saw a diesel shut down?
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> The problems of steam are a lack of MU ability, and the use of 100-150 year old
> ideas of maintance. I believe that it is certanly possible to make economic
> use of coal via a railway engine, rather than oil-either directly, or
> indrectly.
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> James P
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| (...) I think he was discounting tourist roads. I don't think any non tourist US road uses steam in revenue service on a regular basis (unless you count fireless). (...) You're going to need to provide a cite and detailed analysis for that. ACE (...) (25 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gray VS. Black Metroliner Nose
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| (...) Hardly. So what...it costs more than diesel for maintance, and since US railways are profit orented, that's what they use (well, for the most part...I could name a few US railways that use steam, although I cannot think of any which are (...) (25 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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