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(...) How's that? I'd call Koresh a Christian, just not a mainstream one. What does it take to be a 'true' Christian? Chris (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think Dave! did a pretty good job of expanding on what I was intimating in my little Godmoney venting. I do think our priorities are completing screwed. I think we should BY FAR be more concerned with security, emergency response, and how to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All right, I retract that statement (which was admittedly unfair). I'm still not comfortable with "risky behavior," though, because it carries a vibe of "got what was coming to them," whether you intend it or not. (...) Agreed--just as David (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What would it mean for Israel to play the good boy? Surely, they can't placate the demands of *all* neighboring states. Israel exists (though the how and why of it be may be questionable.) It's destruction is not an option; peace is only going (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What must a person of Turkish descent whose family has lived in Germany for three generations do to seek citizenship? (...) Actually, this is a tricky situation because ultimately I think that rights are just a notion. But I spend the majority (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The longer Israel plays the bad guy, the longer the people who "govern" places like Saudi-Arabia and Syria will have a distraction for their own people. I expect that if Israel were to all-of-a-sudden become a good boy, a few of the neighbours (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Granted, it would probably be in Israel's best interests to participate on the "world stage" but that doesn't mean that Middle Eastern countries have a free pass to throw around absolutely hateful rhetoric in the meantime. A congress on racism (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly! No one needs a banning, you both just need a perspective. Scott, it doesn't hurt your standing here when Larry calls you a liar. It hurts you when you ask him to prove it umpteenmillion times. Larry, it doesn't hurt your standing here (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have partly fallen in to the trap laid by Wasserstein. One can be: A Jew but not a Zionist. A Zionist but not a Jew. A Zionist Israeli but not an Jew etc etc The problem is people on both side choose to confuse the terms. Israeli are very (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As currently deployed, it is indeed small potatoes. I'm sure more people are killed by food poisoning than anthrax. As a terrorist weapon it is very effective. I expect the economic cost of its impact must be huge. If the government treats it (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not happy with the bedfellow relationship that my government has with Israel, so, no, I'm not suprised by the associations made between the U.S. and Israel. However...absolutely hateful and unplacatable anti-Israel and anti- Semitic (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I may be wrong, but I think the USA poured cold water on the meeting well before it even started as is was going to give its friends in the Middle East a hard time. So if the USA did not play ball because of the way Israel was being treated, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Before anyone gets hot and bothered about rights in the UK, this is an AI overview of detention without trial due to risk of terrorism in the UK: ==+== The maximum period of detention without charge is seven days, with an extension of up to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How did we cast our own die there? (I really want to know.) james (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I understand that the root of his issue was not bible purchases per se, but his GodMoney comments were red herrings meant to attack willy-nilly and make broad- brush generalizations about people of faith and their motives and concerns. (...) I (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I read from Richard's post a concern that a disease that has claimed millions of lives is still perceived as a "fringe" disease, while a disease that recently has claimed fewer than 10 lives has been the front page story in every news source (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure what you are getting at. Can you please elaborate? Who is this "nobody" that you are referring to? What connection are you assuming between Bible-purchases and AIDS deaths? If I purchase a Bible (which I have in the last year), am (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm sure that Wasserstein is aware that some of the "hatred" may well be entirely rational - does anyone seriously deny that? I know that for some time (prior to the events of Sept 11) Bush Jr almost appeared to be nurturing Amera-scepticism (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, I read about the case of Dr Mazen Al-Najjar who was held for over 3 years ( May 1997 - December 2000) without charge based on "secret evidence". He had lived in the USA since 1981. His lawyer said this when he was released (from BBC): (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) and (...) does (...) That's a big change IMO. And indefinitely "under some circumstances". But that was only an example - the bill contains many other changes as well. ROSCO (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is only new in that it can be used to detain people who have otherwise legitimate papers. If you're found to be somehow suspect or in violation of your visa, you already *can* and often *are* detained without trial indefinitely, in (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) I'm not an immigrant in the US: "For example, it denied the administration the power to detain indefinitely and without charges immigrants suspected of involvement in terrorism. The bill does expand the limit to seven days of detention, from (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Including things like this: (URL) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I think you mean a Canadian. (Celine Dion) James P (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Horst: Absolutely right. What matters over here is GOD and MONEY, or GODMONEY. Nobody cares if thousands of homosexuals suffer and die. Bible sales are up. At the top of the music charts are patriotic songs (sung by a French woman?). Our civil (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but i didn't know where else it really fit. I was at DCI (Drums Corps International) 2001 Summer Music Games finals on August 11th. DCI has now posted a .mov file of the traditional finale - a medley (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Make that two: Brazil and South Africa. I have followed the brazilian case through Cable, so I understood some of the $$ involved. Nasty $-diplomacy... The brazilians have had some success since the introduction of State-manufactered drugs in (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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... or why foreign patents are less important than US patents To me it seems the US are trying to save some money in this case, whereas they did just about everything to protect their own profits with anti AIDS products. This even extends beyond (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wouldn't that, at least gradually, also have to depend on whether the road or the residents were first to be there? :wq Horst (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I just came across this article, and thought that it would make good debate fodder. (It's sure to raise some hackles from some quarters.) It is by Bernard Wasserstein, Professor of History at the University of Glasgow, and President of the Jewish (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is about time, with this reference, that the government says maybe we have gone a little too far. I mean, I can understand the book Hayduke Lives! as something that might turn an eye, but HARRY POTTER?!?! My god. What is the threat, (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) and typically Strine too (eg brekkie=breakfast, kindie=kindergarten). I'd never heard it before: as far as I knew "commo" and "commie" exclusively referred to communist. Ross mentioned the Holden vs Ford clan rivalry -- maybe that satisfies (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Can somebody who understands this please explain the point about his driving licence? I assume it is used as ID? What does the date matter unless he intended to drive the plane to his planned destination? I mean this part: ==+== And the final reason (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you ever think that getting an answer from you was not the only aim? (...) It is my view that apart from the "what no answer" type posts you only answer the useless ones – i.e. the ones where you can score a cheap point. When I do make a (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't. People can (and do) get this wrong. If anyone wants to take an issue to debate, let them move it there. It’s no big deal. People should be able to reply to any message in any *appropriate* group. (...) For rules 2 & 3. I think there (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are starting to sound desperate. Scott A (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. (...) Good point. (...) The ones near us had their last calf a year or so ago now (they are now too old to safely have any more). The newborn calves are dream. Their feet are huge, they look like they could never lift them. As the calves (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The ones near us had their last calf a year or so ago now (they are now too old to safely have any more). The newborn calves are dream. Their feet are huge, they look like they could never lift them. As the calves get older they tend to (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No. It will end in bickering. (...) I don't agree with you on that. Scott A (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed. Need to dig into the "why" of that, because just about everything you've posted as a disadvantage I see as an advantage! (...) I heard "commo" and "commie" a lot while I was there. Even the Holden guy at the torch relay ceremony Holden (...) (23 years ago, 25-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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