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Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
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Date: 
Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:11:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Simpson writes:

> > When you imply, as you have implied, that certain behaviors make it all
> > right for individuals to contract fatal diseases, the burden is on you,

> I made no such implication whatsoever; I never, never implied that it is "all
> right" (i.e. a just punishment) for said people to contract AIDS.  Contraction
> is a natural risk and consequence of risky behavior. That's just a fact. But I
> never said that it was just punishment, or any other such thing.

  All right, I retract that statement (which was admittedly unfair).  I'm
still not comfortable with "risky behavior," though, because it carries a
vibe of "got what was coming to them," whether you intend it or not.

> > In addition, when such level-headed
> > individuals as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson go on the record to blame the
> > Sept11 attacks on gays and liberals, one can hardly fault people who argue
> > that there are larger issues at play than infected mail.

> What do those crack-pots have to do with me (as a representative member of the
> bible-buying religious segment of our population?)  I don't claim to follow JF
> or have him as a spokesman. (I'm not suggesting that you're saying this, but,)
> equating the attitude of JF with the attitude of Christians et-al is the same
> kind of rhetoric that makes Muslims guilty by association to terrorists.

  Agreed--just as David Koresh was not a true Christian.  However, since
Robertson is a major drum-beater for the radical right and wields (along
with his Coalition) heavy influence among Conservatives, it's not
inappropriate to question his motives in making such a nonsense statement.
I'm not equating your views with his (since in previous science:religion
debates you've demonstrated that you are quite reasonable), but I'm
underscoring once again the problem of priority.

     Dave!



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  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) How's that? I'd call Koresh a Christian, just not a mainstream one. What does it take to be a 'true' Christian? Chris (25 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?)
 
(...) I understand that the root of his issue was not bible purchases per se, but his GodMoney comments were red herrings meant to attack willy-nilly and make broad- brush generalizations about people of faith and their motives and concerns. (...) I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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