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Re: So now it's official...
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Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:41:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/national/26CONG.html

Glad I'm not an immigrant in the US:

"For example, it denied the administration the power to detain indefinitely and
without charges immigrants suspected of involvement in terrorism. The bill does
expand the limit to seven days of detention, from two days, though under some
circumstances that could be repeatedly extended by six-month periods."

   This is only new in that it can be used to detain people
   who have otherwise legitimate papers.  If you're found to be
   somehow suspect or in violation of your visa, you already
   *can* and often *are* detained without trial indefinitely,
   in conditions that have been roundly condemned by human-rights
   organizations around the world.

   I have a feeling these facilities are about to be "expanded."
   However, what about the countries of origin of those detainees?
   Are we to expect acquiescence on all cases?

   LFB



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  Re: So now it's official...
 
(...) and (...) does (...) That's a big change IMO. And indefinitely "under some circumstances". But that was only an example - the bill contains many other changes as well. ROSCO (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  "unconstitutional detention" (Re: So now it's official...)
 
(...) Indeed, I read about the case of Dr Mazen Al-Najjar who was held for over 3 years ( May 1997 - December 2000) without charge based on "secret evidence". He had lived in the USA since 1981. His lawyer said this when he was released (from BBC): (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(URL) I'm not an immigrant in the US: "For example, it denied the administration the power to detain indefinitely and without charges immigrants suspected of involvement in terrorism. The bill does expand the limit to seven days of detention, from (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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