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Re: "unconstitutional detention" (Re: So now it's official...)
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Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:17:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/national/26CONG.html
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> > > Glad I'm not an immigrant in the US:
> > >
> > > "For example, it denied the administration the power to detain indefinitely and
> > > without charges immigrants suspected of involvement in terrorism. The bill does
> > > expand the limit to seven days of detention, from two days, though under some
> > > circumstances that could be repeatedly extended by six-month periods."
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> > This is only new in that it can be used to detain people
> > who have otherwise legitimate papers. If you're found to be
> > somehow suspect or in violation of your visa, you already
> > *can* and often *are* detained without trial indefinitely,
> > in conditions that have been roundly condemned by human-rights
> > organizations around the world.
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> Indeed, I read about the case of Dr Mazen Al-Najjar who was held for over 3
> years ( May 1997 - December 2000) without charge based on "secret evidence".
> He had lived in the USA since 1981. His lawyer said this when he was
> released (from BBC):
> "We are absolutely ecstatic Janet Reno has come to her senses and stopped
> this unconstitutional detention"
Before anyone gets hot and bothered about rights in the UK, this is an AI
overview of detention without trial due to risk of terrorism in the UK:
==+==
The maximum period of detention without charge is seven days, with an
extension of up to five days being granted by a judicial authority after the
initial 48 hours.The provisions regarding judicial supervision of detention
are still significantly weaker than under ordinary legislation. Under
ordinary legislation, the maximum period of detention without charge is four
days, with further 36-hour and 24-hour extensions being granted by a
judicial authority after the initial 36 hours.
==+==
These provisions exist within the context of a large a number of terrorist
acts in the UK.
Scott A
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> Has anyone been detained longer than him without charge in the USA?
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> Has their nephew also been ejected from the Whitehouse:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1414000/1414900.stm
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> Scott A
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> > I have a feeling these facilities are about to be "expanded."
> > However, what about the countries of origin of those detainees?
> > Are we to expect acquiescence on all cases?
> >
> > LFB
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