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(...) Well? Is there a contrary view? Scott A (24 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Including me I think. (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) By referencing the dietary constraint issue, are you talking about my ethical stance on vegetarianism? You are claiming that there is a difference between protecting lives and dietary restriction, but my dietary restriction does protect lives. (...) (24 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For one thing, after the filming of Xena's beheading, Lucy Lawless appeared on Leno. In real life people do not typically hit the talk show circuit after they're decapitated (though admittedly it's sometimes hard to tell the difference). As (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm.. It strikes me as a contradiction to call for reality as a stylized representation of reality, but I'm nitpicking (and, anyway, I know what you're saying). But overall I think people want realism in their fiction, moreso than (but not to (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not by my watch. If you were unclear on the issue you probably should've asked Larry what he meant by amoral. Otherwise, you must explain what definition you though Larry was using, explain why it's not what you're saying, AND explain the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the key phrase is "public indecency and lewdness." Sex, violence, indecency etc. don't always happen in public. (...) The reason that I chose that particular incident, is because there was a double shooting at a local mall the day (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Didn't you jump my case for calling you a prude several months ago? I think pornography is a good tool for parents to demonstrate sex when they're too shy to do so in person. It sounds like Scott objects to the commission of certain acts or (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't mean to come down on the side of censorship here, but if you haven't noticed, we do have laws against public indecency and lewdness and laws against violence too. So your analogy, it seems to me, works against your stance. (...) But we (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Last time I had to post 3 timesabout my new MOCs before 2 people replied. They were too busy arguing about wings in space... ZaC Soden ---...--- www.ozbricks.com/battlespace (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I know this was a troll, but I thought I'd bite. (...) Certainly we tell ourselves that the children involved are deeply damaged by the experience. I'm not so sure that it's just our squicky puritanical knee-jerk doing that rationalizing sometimes. (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had typed out a whole paragraph arguing exactly that point, but thought it was vague enough that I let it be. Besides, I didn't want to prove your statement about me above to be true. :-) (...) -Duane (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Alright, I'll put this topic to bed (Oooo, that pun's just bad) (...) I'm just wondering what the difference is in your mind. (...) OK, I'll give you that. (...) Then why is there such a hunger for the media to lay their hands on (to use the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which response, to which Dave? Precision is good. Do you agree with my summation below? If not, could you give what *you* think Chris meant, and what *you* think Larry meant? From looking through, it is very obvious that everyone who has (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an interesting point and I think I can shed a little more light on it. Jennifer's truck broke new ground on two (or more) front's. I think as well as her being female there we're more factor's that contributed to the large number of (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jesse Alan Long writes: <snip my own stuff> (...) Who is Judy? Jude (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nobody "stole" the name of your spacecraft since you do not hold exclusive rights to the name "Galaxy Enforcer" It's especially silly for you to claim ownership of this name, because you admitted that it's a name for a spaceship you haven't (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the obsession has to do with Shiri being female. To illustrate this, I've put together an example. Below are some posts from Lugnet.technic (in which most of the posts are from males). POST 1: Beat Felber's announcement of his new (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope (...) You have to take the ribbing to be a part of the groups. It's fun. Accept it. Do it back. Enjoy yourself. (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <emphasis> (...) </emphasis> (...) You paint with too broad a brush, sir. And I resent it. I am very tired of it, in fact, in the general case. In this specific case I have repeatedly tried to move this thread to debate and others keep moving (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) people have been ridiculing me for simply saying that they stole a name for a class of space craft that I have built and I am not trying to complain but these people, for the most part, have been acting as if they are the biggest LEGO gods in (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When one read this again it looks rather quaint: "have the right to marry and to found a family". Although I am sure/hope it is not intended today, but it implies that marriage should come before having children. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a family forum. Like I said before, it may just be that I am a prude. (...) Just what war torn coutry do you live in? (...) Not more violent, but more realistic. There is a clear distinction between the two. Movies have the stylised (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For the benifit of other readers: (URL) 16. (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every other person is STILL talking about Shiri? Does every person in this room have a psychotic obscession with Shiri? "Move it along, there's nothing to see here, people, let's go. police chief from South Park" Jesse Long P.S. I agree with (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am, if we share an understanding of what "basic" means. Even if we do not, there is this : Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Article 16. (I expect Duane will contest both. ;/) However, the paranoid in me tells me that this is the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is your basis to the claim that acts depicted in pornography are different than those done in real life behind closed doors? (...) The crow-bar incident stemmed from my attempt to help a woman in a neighboring apartment who was being (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I did not say that in this thread. I cannot remember ever saying it? (...) This is because, generally, I do not view .debate as a place where debates should start (am I the only one which thinks this?). I view it as a place where debates which (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 'Dissenting Judge Ann Bradley said the sentence violated the "basic human right" to have children.' Wasn't aware of such a right. Who's got her email address, maybe she could present her reasons for that viewpoint here and settle (1) a (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks! Dave! Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. (...) I understand there are no/little computers in schools in India - and yet every country wants Indian IT graduates. I am pretty sure that Japan has very few computers in schools also - but I may be wrong. The problems with computers in (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have you read my respnse to Dave on this? (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) no. Calling it amoral compares it to us does it not? (...) no. (...) If you mean murder, by anyone's moral code this is wrong. I expect even murders know it to be wrong. (...) What is your point? (...) Yes, but I do not have to stop myself - I (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It does yes. But not as it is depicted in pornography. (...) You must be mixing with the wrong people. Violence in the movies is not the same as in real life. Perhaps the US's fascination with gun culture would be lessened if the movies (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. I'm not being clear again. I meant the relevance of the arugment was moot - not its content. Scott A (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why is it illegal? Is it because the majority find it offensive, or because of the exploitation/harm to children? Perhaps both? If no exploitation/harm to childrenwas involved in any way, should it be available in a free society? Should the (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) heh. Vasectomy and castration (chemical or otherwise) are generally quite effective, as is tubal ligation or hysterectomy. In addition, homosexual intercourse traditionally has a low occurrence of pregnancy. Dave! (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Court order? (URL) Yes contraceptives are effective, just not 100% effective. If you (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.space, Jude Beaudin writes: *Snip, chop, lop, crop.* (...) *Snip, chop, lop, crop.* I have generaly stopped posting on lugnet.space about my MOCs, due to the fact that nobody ever seems to respond. I do keep posting about updates on my (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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My carry gun is a Kimber Elite Carry. It is .45 ACP, based on the Colt Commander style of 1911. It carries 7 rounds in the mag and 1 in the chamber. It is 1.28 inches in width, has a 4 inch barrel, weighs 28 ounces, a total length of 7.7 inches and (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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