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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:04:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:

He never stated that films were an objective account of life, nor did I mean
to imply that they were. My intention is to show that sex and violence
happens in movies as well as real life. Why invite the government into your
household to regulate what your children can watch on the television when
they (your children) can see very similar things in their own daily life?

I don't mean to come down on the side of censorship here, but if you haven't
noticed, we do have laws against public indecency and lewdness and laws against
violence too.  So your analogy, it seems to me, works against your stance.

However, I don't think
that the media should be censored for the same reason that we shouldn't try
to censor real life. The only difference between a violent act on TV or one
at the local mall is that I can choose not to see the one on TV. But I want
it to be *my* choice.

But we _do_ censor 'real life.'  Violence at the mall is against the law.  And,
I might add, much less common than violence in the media.

Is my assertion about Scott's personal life nonsense as you claim? Probably.
In fact, I will say yes. To make my point, take a quick mental test. Imagine
a camera following you around for a time 24 hours a day for a month
(arbitrary time frame). In that amount of time, how many sexual encounters
will you have, and how many violent episodes will you witness in real life?
Now take that imaginary camera and publish the imaginary movie. I
*guarantee* that there will be things on that imaginary film that the
government wouldn't let through by todays standards. Now, why is it we can
*experience* those things in real life, but can't *express* them through
freedom of speech?

I'm not sure I buy the notion that you can't.  Who would stop you from either
writing and publishing your account, or making such a movie (boring as it would
be, at least in my case) and sending it out?  As far as I can tell there are
damn few things that happen in my life that would be against the law to
broadcast.  My sex acts in any random month (or lifetime) have included only
living humans who consented.

Chris



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  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) I think the key phrase is "public indecency and lewdness." Sex, violence, indecency etc. don't always happen in public. (...) The reason that I chose that particular incident, is because there was a double shooting at a local mall the day (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
 
(...) Any film as a *true* representation of life? No. *A* representation of acts in real life interpreted by the director, producer, actors, etc.? Yes. (...) He never stated that films were an objective account of life, nor did I mean to imply that (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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