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    Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
   I know several people (including myself) are dreading the day when we're forced to switch to the Premier or Business account at Paypal. Getting slapped with what will work out to about 3% in fees on every transaction will sting, and in many cases, (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Larry Pieniazek
     I'm willing to stick to your informal agreement... seems a good idea to me. (...) I think you can refuse a payment once you go over the limit though, right? BTW, PayPal just went international. I was excited. Then I read the fine print... 30 cents (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
    
         Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
      (...) Well that takes a load of my mind since you're one of my largest buyers. :) I think it could work out well for everyone. (...) Do you read it as you having a choice? I read it as "once you go over the limit we'll snag any CC funds sent your (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
      (...) Ok, just reread the policy change. You're right, and I'll quote: "Credit card payments sent to a Personal Account in excess of the limit will be held as "pending" until the recipient chooses to accept the payment by upgrading or to return it (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Paul Sinasohn
      Sorry, Mike... If you start insisting on eCheck or PayPal, you will forever lose my business, not that I've bought much from you, but I object to what PayPal has done with limiting a buyer's use of credit cards for payment. In fact, I'm not using (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Do you mean legally? Or from a reputation perspective? I don't think that you are legally required (in a mutually voluntary transaction) to accept or not accept any particular form.(1) I certainly can, and will, refuse to accept payment in (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Frank Filz
        (...) So you object to PayPal not giving you a free service? Welcome to the real world where everything has a cost. There ain't no free lunches. I'm not sure if PayPal has wrangled an agreement with the credit card companies or if they are eating (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
       
            SARCASM WARNING re: PayPal payments —Paul Sinasohn
        <GRIN> OK, Frank, how much am I going to charge you for paying me for those big gears </GRIN> (which finally arrived, so I do need your address to send them to you) Do you need the old-style studded wheels with metal axle for them? I'll scare some (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Steve Bliss
        (...) Ooo. I think some nation just got slammed. Or is that nations? Steve (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
       
            Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —James Powell
          (...) More like Lar wants to go home and play with his Lego :) James (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
       
            Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) How so? All I am saying is that I am not home to process mail. I've said before that Josette doesn't like to do it, and doesn't do it very accurately. So getting mail is a huge hassle because I am not there to see it. Nothing else. However I (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Christopher L. Weeks
       (...) What does the term "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private" mean? It's printed on all of our currency. I remember reading once (5-10 years ago) that all US cash had to be accepted as a form of payment except pennies. I (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Um... I give. For that matter, what does "in God we Trust" mean? I don't. Does that mean I can't use the money if I don't? I think that whatever terms I arrange and which the other party accepts, are binding. If I am not specific about how I (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Christopher L. Weeks
       (...) No, no, no! You're supposed to dispense information. Jeez. ;-) (...) It is the invokation of good-luck voodoo that keeps our economy stable. Duh. (...) I don't think that's logically the same since it doesn't instruct on a point of law. I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —James Brown
       (...) I think what Mike meant is that if you're paying by Paypal, it has to be by eCheck or balance transfer, not CC. I just went to sign up for Paypal, and stopped. Not out of any objection to policies, or fee structures, no. It's because they (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
      (...) Well, that's certainly your choice. But I never said I am going to insist on eCheck or Paypal. What I am talking about is that if someone is going to pay me WITH Paypal I think we should all agree to do it the eCheck way (which is one of the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Paul Sinasohn
      (...) If you'll still accept other forms of payment, then I'll still buy. Got any 2x2x5 girders around? :-) (...) The problem I have is that PayPal places an unreasonable hold/delay on funds wired in to them. Wired moeny is already in their hands - (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Frank Filz
       (...) ... (...) Why are you WIRING them money? If you verify a checking account with them, they will make a draft withdrawal from your checking account (and I have yet to hear of a bank charging for that). They also place a hold on your credit card (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
      (...) No, but if you can give me an ldraw part number and sets that contain it I'll keep an eye out for them. :) (...) Not really any different, though, than what your bank does with putting a hold on deposits, right? I agree, it is a pain, but a (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Paul Sinasohn
      (...) 2x2x5 girders came in 1682 in red, in 6444 in black, and in 3313 in grey. Ldraw #s are 2579 and 2580 (both are needed) (...) There IS a difference, though - a paper check deposited cannot be instantly verified. A wire or EFT withdrawal, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Frank Filz
       (...) You need a new bank then. Do they charge you $42 to pay bills also? Frank (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
      (...) Hrmmm - I think I may actually have several 6444's in my Lego room. Probably take me a few more months worth of working my way through the piles of unopened sets to part out and sell before I can find them, but I know I picked up several on (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Rob Doucette
      "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G3Dy2H.Bn9@lugnet.com... (...) I assume you are referring to charges borne by international account holders (non-US). From the Policy Changes page: ===...=== International Payments (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Ben Roller
       (...) I don't know for sure, but I think that it's illegal in some states to charge extra for credit card purchases. Anyone know if this is true or not? ...time passes... Well, I researched it. According to www.creditinfocenter.com which is what I (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Rob Doucette
       "Ben Roller" <broller@mail.clemson.edu> wrote in message news:G3EIK6.5t2@lugnet.com... (...) goods. (...) and (...) charge (...) what I (...) CA, (...) according (...) them in (...) MasterCard (...) I don't know if this is applicable since (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
      
           Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Frank Filz
       (...) The agreement with the credit card company is PayPal's, you never signed an agreement with Visa or any other credit card company. However, you did agree to PayPal's conditions. Looking through them, I don't see anything about surcharges, so it (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
     
          Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
      (...) I don't think that's workable, personally. I could see 3-4%, but not 10%. And you might be able to "legally" get away with holding onto the funds of some forgetful (or inconsiderate) person who chooses to violate this gentlemen's agreement (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
    
         Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Ray Sanders
     (...) Let me throw two observations into this discussion... 1) Once you have upgraded an account (to premier/business), I can find no way to refuse any payment. I *really* wanted to bounce one the other day, so I looked through PayPal. There is (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Jon Kozan
     (...) I suppose I should have know this would happen. I'm less than $3 from the limit. (...) My plan is to 1) start accepting funds via YAHOO! PayDirect. It's (still) free. 2) (probably) Post on my web site that Payapl CC payments will incur the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Kevin Salm
     (...) Count me as one of these people. I like my account just the way it is right now. I tend not to keep funds at Paypal. I keep them at my x.com bank account. My Paypal account is linked to my X.com bank account and that is the account where I (...) (24 years ago, 2-Nov-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Richard Marchetti
   (...) Okay, here is my problem: I have previously never had a balance in my Paypal account because I never sell anything via the internet. It just so happens that a seller recently kicked me some money back again because the item was not in the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Rob Doucette
   "richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:G4yHHw.2Hu@lugnet.com... (...) is (...) Your account must be set up to draw from a bank account instead of a credit card when a send payment drops your balance below $0. I'm not sure (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Mike Stanley
   (...) After checking my history of payments I think I know what Richard's problem is. He is listed as "Unverified" - which I believe means he has not registered a bank account with Paypal. I don't believe Paypal originally required one to do that, (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Richard Marchetti
   (...) Could be. I will check this out directly. As it stands, I can confirm that the interface screens I have been viewing look nothing like the one you posted about -- there are at least a few HUGE differences. Thanks, Mike. -- Richard (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)
   
        Re: Can we all agree to do eCheck payments with Paypal and not CC? —Richard Marchetti
   (...) Actually, it looks like the processing of a verified account may take some four days. But I started the process a few moments ago. I'll let y'all know what comes of it later this week. Now, I'm just sort of curious about the whole thing... (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)
 

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