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| | | (...) That is EXTREMELY sick. And he's charging people $10 for that single piece of information. I wish I could add on to the bottom of his auction and tell everybody to simply go to walmart.com. Bryan (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Chris Crawford
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| | | | But, one other possibility: He was sick of seeing 8458s go for over $100 on ebay, and was trying to deflate the market for them a bit. Pure speculation on my part. Hey, why not put up your own auction for $0.02 and send the info to all bidders? Not (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Bryan Wong
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| | | | (...) You're too nice, Chris. :) Actually, he's been selling them for over $100 on eBay himself... As if that wasn't enough of a profit, now he has to charge people for his source of cheap sets! (...) Yes, I think that's against the eBay TOS cuz (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Bianca Nebab
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| | | | | Unbelievable. This is the same guy who was running the false "buy it now" for 124.99 8458 Dutch auction: (URL) put up one Silver Champion for 124.99 but promised others to get around the listing fees for a Dutch auction. A real scalper. "Bryan Wong" (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Peter Parsons
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| | | | | (...) Hey People It takes all sorts of people to make a world even (Sick) ones. Don't get all excited about something that (We) can not stop or change, forget about him and keep on "Bricking" "What goes arround comes arround" Regards Peter LUGNET (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | (...) If it were done right, I imagine that it wouldn't violate the TOS... Something along the lines of: -------- DESCRIPTION: Silver Champion & Railway Express STARTING PRICE: $500 I bought this Silver Champion on www.walmart.com for $75 (plus 5.95 (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | DaveE and Bryan Wong (1) together have it backwards. Putting information in the listing about where to get it cheaper *is* against the eBay TOS. Example provided by DaveE (quoted below). Offering the same item for less than someone else *is not* (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) Huh... didn't know that... I wonder if putting a link would be ok, seeing as it's not content which should fall under jurisdiction of Ebay-- tho the link itself would be... Something along the lines of: "<a href=www.walmart.com>Click here to (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) Well-- I just heard back from Ebay and they seem to disagree... they said "We have ... determined that the auction falls within our policy guidelines"... they didn't really say why or anything... DaveE (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | | | (...) Interesting. They have the final say, but I think they should reword their written policy since it is misleading at best. And it does make possible a $0.27 auction for the same information, if that is something you feel like doing. ($0.27 will (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Joel Morris
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| | | | | | Someone could also watch who bids on this particular auction. Then email the high bidder with "visit walmart.com" and then they could have the chance to retract their bid. "David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —William Brumbach
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| | | | | | (...) No can do, it's a "Buy it now!" auction, first bid ends it. junior (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) FWIW, the seller contacted me on Monday (or yesterday? I forget) and said he's actually gotten more than one "do-gooder" interaction on his auction, his bidders were "...contacted by someone either offering to sell the same set for a little (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | (...) Strike that-- he just posted :) DaveE (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Mark Hollingsworth
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| | | | | | Here's what I really wrote, and you were absolutely wrong about the ebay rules. Check out my RIS sales! Why do you have to be mad when someone else makes money? You should buy a RIS 1.5 set from me, and leave some negative feedback, but be careful (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) Personal aside (just passing the buck, sorry Charles, if you were indeed wrong) but I tried to be very careful in my wording because I did not actually find the quoted rules which were supposedly in question. Instead I said: (...) I also said: (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | | | (...) (Please call me "Eric", not "Charles". I gotta get that fixed...) That quote is an exact quote. Here's the web page and a little more context: (URL) Listing Techniques that Circumvent eBay's fee structure Users may not use systems or (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) The sad thing is I instinctively wrote "Eric" first by somehow recalling the "Eric McC" signature, and then went back and deleted it when I actually looked at the posting name... Shame on me! :) (...) Ah! Ok... that makes it a bit more (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) **snip** (...) Is it against the TOS simply to send a private email to a bidder letting him/her know about purchasing options? I may be guilty in that case, because on one or two occasions I've mailed bidders on items with slightly misleading (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | (...) I think that is against the eBay TOS. See: (URL) clearly doesn't want any bidders to have more information about where to buy things, because that means less money to sellers and less in eBay fees. I think a good approach to disseminating this (...) (24 years ago, 9-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | Eric McCarthy wrote in message <3A5B9390.3A434438@r...ng.com>... (...) Maybe adding a few things to the Buying Lego FAQ would do the trick, then everyody link to it. My auctions now all link to it. If all the lugnetters who sell on eBay linked to (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Ben Gatelle
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| | | | | | (...) I'm not sure where I come in on this whole issue. On the one hand, let the buyer beware is true and if someone is content to pay $120 for a $170 retail set, they are "saving" $50 regardless of how much more they could have saved buying it from (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Mark Hollingsworth
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| | | | | | | You are so correct I wish I had said it myself. (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) I'm in an interesting place on this one... On the one hand, I don't like people acting as 'outrageous' middlemen. Marking up the price from what you got it? Fine. Marking it up a LOT? When it's not worth that much? Yeah, I've got a moral (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Ben Gatelle
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| | | | | | (...) It is misleading in that the seller said this is not sold in stores, or something to that effect which is clearly no true. (...) I have had auctions run 1 or 2 weeks in a row with no one meeting the minimum bid, and then the third time around (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) Ahh... ok, for some reason I thought you were making reference to a ficticious auction-- I didn't know they actually wrote "Not sold in stores! Hard to find! VERY RARE!" or whatever... That makes it much clearer! :) (...) Yep. I'd be forced to (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Mark Hollingsworth
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| | | | | (...) And finally someone actually has a very good idea. I will stay tuned to see if anyone will actually follow up. After all isn't it is so much easier to complain, interfere with auctions, mistakingly quote ebay's "TOS", and pass judgement on (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah, almost as easy as selling easily-obtainable information. It doesn't make me "sick", as some people said- after all, if you can fool people that should know better into paying you $10 for the information, more power to you- but don't get (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Mark Hollingsworth
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| | | | | | | | | Since you wouldn't answer my email direct, I copy it here for your comment. And again why the namecalling, ok, maybe I started that, please continue Hello, When you posted about the $9.99 information auction being against the eBay TOS, you copied (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) I didn't get any email from you. But I have to admit, I'm not that interested in a dialogue about this situation, and if I were to get one, I'd likely delete it without reading it. (...) See below. (...) You're right, I apologise for that. It (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Well, as far as how your auction breaks such a rule, I'd say the 'listing' that you were selling was 'the opportunity to purchase other merchandise outside of ebay'. Is it really the 'opportunity'? Arguable. However, elsewhere you say that the (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Rose Regner
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| | | | | | | | | Lorbaat wrote in message ... (...) more (...) you (...) I have a problem with him selling information he gleaned for free on LUGNET. I for one do not want to post any more finds on LUGNET for people like him. I currently know a great source for (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Joel Hoornbeek
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| | | | | | | | | | | I'm sorry to hear that you don't feel you can post good sale finds anymore, Rose, but I can understand why you feel that way. I, for one, am very thankful that you posted about the Walmart.com sale. I had been putting off getting a UCS X-wing until (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) This is really worrisome to me that people are feeling less and less like mentioning good opportunities. I know I had a similar feeling when my posting about having been called by the Georgia outlet caused such a ruckus (and for those who (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Rose Regner
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| | | | | | | | Lorbaat wrote in message ... (...) more (...) you (...) I have a problem with him selling information he gleaned for free on LUGNET. I for one do not want to post any more finds on LUGNET for people like him. I currently know a great source for (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Mark Hollingsworth
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ok, I see the point, and I admit the information sale was a bad idea. (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | mark hollingsworth wrote in message ... (...) see (...) Check the Buying Lego FAQ at (URL) . Link to it from your auctions if you dare educate your buyers :-) Kevin ---...--- Victorian House: Limited edition kit (URL) Kits & Custom Lego models: (...) (24 years ago, 11-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Mark Hollingsworth
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| | | | (...) Wrong, and just plain silly. (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —David Eaton
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| | | | | (...) Please back this up, because I have no idea what you're getting at. To me the above makes perfect sense. I'm interested to know why you think Ebay has a problem with other people trying to give out information which diverts Ebay buyers from (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | Re: This makes me SICK! —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | (...) Then explain the reasons they don't allow catalog sales or information in the auction description about where to get those or other items. Also, look up what they did to Larry P. If I recall correctly, they cancelled his auctions that referred (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.market.auction)
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