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    Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Peter Callaway
   (...) Not so much alienated as peeved to the hilt with all the service options given to the US that are not offered worldwide. I'm a moderate person, but there have been times when I've made my computer blush due to the colourful language I've (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Santosh Bhat
     In lugnet.loc.au, Peter Callaway writes: <snip> (...) I'm in agreement with Peter here. Initially I didn't have many expectations about Lego Direct, but after the latest announcement there is almost no hopes of anything beneficial for anyone not in (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —David Low
     (...) The main reason we don't feel alienated by US cultural dominance is because we're raised on it. When 75% of our world view comes from America, and has done so for the past couple of generations, it's not surprising that we are fairly (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Ahhhhh! Cultural imperialism. It's good to be king! Now forgive me while I drive home in my Mazda and play Nintendo games on my Panasonic TV and play Pokemon cards with my son. :-O Bruce (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) That's the root of my rant about Americanism--it's actually a hybrid culture that's gravitated towards the US because of economic power and demographic strength. The insidious part of Americanism is actually its functioning--its corporatist (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Australian (...) references (...) be (...) I (...) Disneyfication (...) idea (...) entirely (...) Ummmmm, I was indicating that while the rest of the world screams about Americanization and Cultural Imperialism (Don't Buy Our Stuff if that's a (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana —Peter White
      (...) The dominant economic power of the time will be subject to 'osmosis',the flow is always both ways. People of surrounding/less economically strong countries will always attempt to migrate to the stronger culture, while the goods flow out. The (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       (...) What they said. I wasn't saying that Bruce wasn't saying what I said. (Did that make sense? Probably not, but it's bedtime for me.) This is one of the debates around imperialism of any kind--the host culture is affected, and in ways specific (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Peter Callaway
      (...) Kinda like the Lone Star franchise out here by the looks of it. Icky at the best of times. Do they have a stiffed Kangaroo head on the wall? A life sized Aborigine manikin in the corner with a Crocodile Dundee hat on? Framed, autographed (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Bruce Schlickbernd
       (...) I have coyotes and roadrunners in mine. :-) What myth? Hershey's chocolate sucks. Cadbury's not the best, but it's a darn sight better than most of the junk they sell in America. Bruce (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        (...) And I have toxic waste! (New Jersey.) Ignore those trees, clear blue lakes, and deer! It's a toxic dump, I tell ya! (...) Agreed. But after a summer in Birmingham (UK), I'm sick of Cadbury's too. German chocolate is hard to beat, IMHO--Dutch (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Torsten Fresemann
       (...) You can't eat too much of that, you're right. (...) Ritter Sport is good, best chocolate brand though must be Lindt, which is Swiss in origin. Ever had the dark chocolate with 70% cocoa content? Excellent!! Good night, T.F. (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Peter White
       (...) Lindt is great, but more expensive(in Aust. anyway) ....not to mention Guylian seashells (where are they from) pete.w (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Shiri Dori
       (...) Ugh, does that sound familiar... I get asked if everyone in Israel speaks Yiddish (heck no!), if I ride a camel to school (!), and "are you SURE it's not all a big desert?!" Not to mention that I have to defend the IDF* :-) ...First of all I (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        (...) Ack, I just had to get used to hearing colleagues from Israel talk about having to teach classes on Sunday. ;) (...) You know, I had to do the same thing when I moved to New Jersey (insert "NJ" for "IDF"). However, I think the pay in the IDF (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Shiri Dori
       (...) OMG, I can't believe I forgot that. This three-day weekend is WAY too easy to get used to! Sunday is, in Israel, a dreaded term, like Monday is here... (but I manage to keep them mentally seperated by thinking of Sunday in the US in English, (...) (24 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Susan Hoover
      (...) Heh. The Lone Star franchise seems to exist everywhere *except* the Lone Star State (Texas, USA). So yes, your having Lone Star restaurants in Sydney is exactly analogous to our having Outback Steakhouses in Houston. Ugh. (...) And every one (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Peter White
      (...) Susan, maybe we should swap ;^) (...) Any town/city with a university or population over 500,000 acquires diversity with the in and outgo of population. (...) Must be Cadbury's higher sugar content. Before travelling to the US, I wondered what (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Richard Franks
      (...) Maybe it's just a giant mistake? (...) Cadburys is higher in sugar? I always find NA chocolate too sweet - weird! Anyway - what is the difference between a 'Violet Crumble' and a Cadburys 'Crunchie'? As far as I can tell they look the same ;-) (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Peter White
       (...) range ! (...) Hmmm, maybe I just found Hersheys blander.... (...) Correcto, just choc-coated honeycomb. (...) Who looks at corporate sites ? Ick ! :^$ pete.w (24 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Jonathan Wilson
       (...) I think that the best chocolate in the world is those guylian sea shells. (24 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Peter White
     (...) Disneyfication (...) idea (...) entirely (...) Indeed each 'culture' has an obsession with 'home-grown=100% pure' (...) own (...) Some call it Coca cola colonisation. (...) been (...) Australian (...) there (...) One of the guys at work (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Shiri Dori
     Xposting to .general... this needs a bit more publicity IMHO :-) This is not solely an .loc.au thing... (...) Not only that, it's a double reason (well, IMHO, not based on any statistics or anything)): -There is a large _Americans : other countries_ (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Peter White
      (...) -much snippage--- (...) Net access is pretty good in Aust.(1 in 2 people have access to the Net) There is a big opportunity for a US citizen/s to make a living selling to other countries the LSAH and full US range of sets, just tack a (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Shiri Dori
       (...) Weeeell.. I ANAL but-- Wouldn't that be considered (beyiond a certain amount of $$) exporting? Which would, quite likely, require the IRS involvement as well as (maybe?) some contract with TLC? (...) :-) (...) 'Zactly. You probably need some (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.market.theory)
      
           Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Peter White
        (...) Of course, but I guess IRS is a personal issue and as long as taxes are paid, what would they care. Exporting, governments just love exporters, and the Lego is manufactured in the US (or most of it). If your buying the sets retail,they can't (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
      
           Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Scott Arthur
        (...) To sell toys in the EU they have to have the little ce safety mark. Lego in the US, as far as I know, does not have it. Scott A (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
      
           Re: Where did you lot spring from? —Matthew Wilkins
       Yes, it does; at least, all the LEGO in all the stores I've been to in the past year have had the CE mark next to the info listing a half-dozen LEGO offices, since some of the parts used in sets sold in the US are made in Europe, as well as the US. (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
     
          Re: Where did you lot spring from? —David Low
      (...) that (...) sets (...) Re: cost and availability of Lego. Our range is reasonably good -- most sets come out here a few months after they appear in the US. The real limit is the price. In general 2x US$MSRP = $AU RRP (so 7131 costs $US15 in (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Where did you lot spring from? —David Low
      (...) There was also the sale a couple of weeks ago where all Lego was 25% off, and SW, Ninja, Insectoids, Fright Nights were all 50% off. Maybe they saw the massive surge in spending because of the mistake and thought, "Let's try it again"? --daveL (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Paul Baulch
      Shiri Dori wrote in message ... (...) US (...) believe (...) I would agree that the U.S. "store sales" posts in .general belong in loc.us, and would like to see that happen. Still, LUGNET on the whole feels fairly US-oriented to me, and there are (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       Quick wee nitpicks from a USian with Canadian and British affinities: (...) Here's the nitpick: the injunction against "bloody" has entirely to do with the British (primarily the English)--it doesn't offend any US-born Americans that I know. It's (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Bram Lambrecht
       (...) LOL! Ever noticed, even on LUGNET, that many of the non-native speakers of English use better grammer than quite a few Americans? Every now and then, some obscure idiom slips in, but otherwise, I must commend you ESLers on your proficiency[1]! (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        <!!!Potentially Offensive Joke About Language Proficiency Alert!!!> (heh) (...) As the joke goes, if you know three languages, you're trilingual. If you know two languages, you're bilingual. If you know one language, you're English. If you know no (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Shiri Dori
        (...) Hehe... #4: Dutch #3: Spanish #2: German #1: English Lindsay... You know you're up late when you can't count <grin, duck and run> -Shiri (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
       
            Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
         (...) No, no, no. I meant #1 in terms of the first language he learned to speak. Sheesh. ;) And who's up late?!? best LFB FUT->o-t.fun (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
       
            Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Susan Hoover
         (...) [Bram's words below] (...) My guess (in the order he learned to speak them) is: 1. Dutch 2. German 3. Spanish 4. English (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
       
            Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Shiri Dori
        (...) Yeah, right, I'm *sure* that's what you meant... <mutters under breath> trying to cover for yourself <\mutter> (hey, we're in .fun now. I'm allowed ;-) (...) Shhhh! Shucks, ya got me... just don't tell my parents ;) -Shiri (24 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Bram Lambrecht
       (...) I was born in Belgium to two Belgian parents. Then, in Argentina, I learned to speak Dutch and Spanish at the same time (probably a bastardization of both). At age 2.5, I moved to Germany, where I spoke German at school, but refused to speak (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.people)
     
          Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Gary R. Istok
        (...) Yes, Americans are arrogant (at times), and ethnocentric. But they are among the friendliest people in the world. However, the center of the known universe is still Billund Denmark! :-) Gary Istok (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET (Was Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Paul Baulch
       Mr L F Braun wrote in message <3910A891.B1F81255@p...su.edu>... (...) Excellent! Constructive criticism is welcome ;-) (...) agree (...) wonderfully (...) Well..... you have to remember that I'm talking about the milder vulgarities, I don't mean (...) (24 years ago, 6-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Where did you lot spring from?) —Bram Lambrecht
      (...) But not everyone here is an adult. Although I sometimes swear casually when talking, I agree with Todd that forbidding profanity improves the community's image and makes it a nicer place to participate. It's often much harder to tell through (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
    
         Warning: May contain offensive language! Was Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET —Maggie Cambron
     (...) Cheer up, Paul, you may get a chuckle out of this story. Okay, so I'm driving along the road (in Northern California, USA) all properly in my Volvo station wagon with my four- and six-year-old kids safely buckled in their seats, and I'm (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Warning: May contain offensive language! Was Re: Some US-like things about LUGNET —Selçuk Göre
      (...) Muwhahahhaaa....what a story...:-) Besides the page is funny (especially for a cat lover like me, always with cats for the last 17 years) enough, I ROFL when I tried to visualize your little kids trying to mimic Todd's very funny looking (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general)
   
        Computers and blue air (was Where did you lot spring from?) —Richard Parsons
   (...) Really?! Your computer still blushes? Mine has long ceased blushing when this happens. These days it either looks at me wistfully, or simply stares pointedly at the floor until I finish yelling. (...) Ditto. Actually, ditto to the max. Richard (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
 

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